Weathering with pigments?

I have tried Mig's Pigments on two kits. I have not used pastel chalks so I have no experience with them. The pigments seem to adhere to whatever you put them ok. The first time I used them I thinned a small spoonful down with rubbing alcohol and brushed it on tank tracks. I think I overdid the amount I put on the tracks. I thought once everything dried out that some of the pigment might come off, but I was somewhat surpised that once dry the pigment seemed to adhere without coming off. I wish now, looking back on it that I had not put so much on the tracks, but that's where trial and error comes in a bit. I am happy with the color, I used 'standard rust' with some 'european dust' added in. I just think I applied too much. Now I know what to expect and will apply sparingly on the next set of tracks I wish to weather!

The other attempt with Mig's Pigments worked out very, very well!! So much so that I cannot wait to try it again! I cannot take credit for the idea, that came from Franck Edet over on WWIIModelmaker! Anyway, you can air-brush pigments, or at least I did! I filled my Badger 350 bottle about 1/2 full of rubbing alcohol and added about 3/8 teaspoon of 'european dust' to the alcohol. The bottle now looks like a jar full of brown wash! Then I sprayed it out the air-brush on this Panther D kit I'm working. Once the rubbing alcohol dries out all you're left with is a nice light coat of dust wherever you want it! Want it thicker? Then try a few more passes. Now I put this on last, nothing else is going on the model. I'm still in 'trial and error' mode, but I think I'm going to like the results. Like to old TV commercial said "Try it, you'll like it!".

Anyway that's my limited experience with Mig's Pigments. I bought mine from The Barrell Store at www.bentbutnotbroken.com

Glenn

P.S.- a little standard rust and some light rust on the rear exhausts look very cool. I painted the exhausts Tamiya red-brown first!)

I have not used them but they are the same pigment used to make paint... Thats why 53ryder couldn't get them off once applied... because by mixing the pigments with thinner or otherwise you basically make them into paint... We have all seen the amazing results one can get with them but like anything else they would take some practice... I wish I could get my hands on some... to tell you the truth...

Peace

Kennethc-

Thanks for the info. Will remember that.

Also, some 'black smoke' and some powered graphite in and around the smoke canisters on this Panther D do a good job of making it look like the rounds have been fired off! I applied with a small brush and Q-tips.

Glenn

Kenneth, you can get MIG pigments from R&J Enterprises.

http://www.rjproducts.com/

Also I've heard the MMP pigments off WWII Model Makers are really good too.

http://www.ww2modelmaker.com/

Use the Hobby Shop link on the left of the page.

Eric

THanks for the replies. I posed another topic of the same name, like an idiot. I posted this one at the end of the day, but my machine froze, so I didn't see it posted up.
Anyways, sorry about the blunder, thanks for the info. I think I'll try 53ryder's idea of making a wash for tracks. Hopefully it'll come out ok...

QUOTE: The other attempt with Mig's Pigments worked out very, very well!! So much so that I cannot wait to try it again! I cannot take credit for the idea, that came from Franck Edet over on WWIIModelmaker! Anyway, you can air-brush pigments, or at least I did! I filled my Badger 350 bottle about 1/2 full of rubbing alcohol and added about 3/8 teaspoon of 'european dust' to the alcohol. The bottle now looks like a jar full of brown wash! Then I sprayed it out the air-brush on this Panther D kit I'm working. Once the rubbing alcohol dries out all you're left with is a nice light coat of dust wherever you want it! Want it thicker? Then try a few more passes. Now I put this on last, nothing else is going on the model. I'm still in 'trial and error' mode, but I think I'm going to like the results. Like to old TV commercial said "Try it, you'll like it!".

Holy cow, through the air brush?

Weird -- I picked up some of their Russian Dust or Russian soil or whatever it's called and was going to use it to weather my Panther tracks (Wiking always fought on the Eastern front) and was wondering how I could combine my dust coat on the tank with the MIGs on my treads -- now maybe I won't have to!

The migs pigs don't clog your airbrush?

When it dries, does it look like particulate matter, or does it just look like a wash? I'm very interested in reading how it looks!

QUOTE: Originally posted by Kennethc I have not used them but they are the same pigment used to make paint... Thats why 53ryder couldn't get them off once applied... because by mixing the pigments with thinner or otherwise you basically make them into paint...

See, that's my concern. I want my weathering on my treads to look like grime and dust, not like paint. I mean, it has to look at least a little bit like particulate matter -- like it has depth like caked-on grime. Anyone have any images showing what this looks like?

I may wind up using pastel chalk on my treads.