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Battle of Kursk help needed
Posted by WigWag Workshop on Thursday, July 17, 2014 10:07 PM

Forget it! I don't know why I even bother to ask for help here! I know how to do a search on the internet!  I was hoping for some insightful information....  

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Posted by disastermaster on Thursday, July 17, 2014 11:00 PM

http://greyfalcon.us/myPictures/anim063.gif  for everything you need.

 https://i.imgur.com/LjRRaV1.png

 

 

 
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Posted by disastermaster on Friday, July 18, 2014 12:00 AM

WigWag Workshop

Forget it! I don't know why I even bother to ask for help here! I know how to do a search on the internet!  I was hoping for some insightful information....  

   Well (you reworded your original request) you

     asked for some insightful help, and that's

        just the way we happen to go about it.

       Now, you'll just have to do your own homework like

        the rest of us.

        You sure ain't looking to make any friends here.

              But forget it!?

                       OK,   http://www.smilys.net/smiley_schilder/smiley2155.gif........you are forgotten.


 https://i.imgur.com/LjRRaV1.png

 

 

 
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Posted by WigWag Workshop on Friday, July 18, 2014 12:54 AM

Yes, I asked a question, and you gave me a web search link. What is the point of responding to a post with that? DO you not think one would have done that first before asking a specific question?  Would it have been so much to ask, to have a response, with some suggestions?  I guess not, according to your follow up post, "That's how WE go about it"  Then whats the purpose of a forum?  Ask a question, and have a person respond with "Google It"?  OR why didn't you just research it yourself?

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Posted by r13b20 on Friday, July 18, 2014 4:14 PM

WOW! I must have missed something. I wish I knew something of that battle, just to be of some help. Sorry. Bob

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Posted by armornut on Friday, July 18, 2014 5:35 PM

Unless you deleted your original question wigwag, you appear to  be the only one with an issue. I have REPEATEDLY asked questions that without a doubt could have been just as easily answered by google or your search engine and NEVER recieved anything but a friendly reply usually a link to something helpful.perhaps reading the rules of the forums will calm you down. I have no beef with you nor do I intend to start a "flame war" however with what is just posted here...... hope you find the information your looking for and a place more comfortable if it is'nt here. Happy modeling.

we're modelers it's what we do

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Posted by Raualduke on Friday, July 18, 2014 6:45 PM

Settle down dude. Every question I've ever asked on this site was answered well informed with well informed, and  very  skilled model builders. Nobody checks in every day

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Posted by Wood on Friday, July 18, 2014 7:43 PM

I asked an opinion on a subject and everyone was helpful with me. For those that gave me advice and a helping hand THANK you all.

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Posted by BlackSheepTwoOneFour on Friday, July 18, 2014 10:57 PM

It wasn't necessary for you to get all uptight and rude. Re-read your post and your reply. Both sounded rude to me.

IMHO, that's not going to win you many friends next time you need advice.  

I've always gotten helpful information after I done a little research myself. A little respect, politeness and common courtesy goes a long way. Being blunt and borderline rude won't.

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Posted by GMorrison on Friday, July 18, 2014 11:14 PM

In fact the very kind of response I find USELESS is when someone quotes chapter and verse from Wikipedia or some other site, as if the info was in their head.

Why?

Because if you have half a mind to try, any link you are led to will lead to a bibliography or list of sources.

I get a lot of really good info from Wiki. Not from the articles, which are usually somewhat suspect, but from all of the listed sources. Learning is a process, not a mind dump, but you know that.

Don't be one of those people who say "I can't believe each and every one of you haven't confessed that you don't know the answer to my question".

EDIT: In fact Disastermaster set you up with all you could eat in a single evening, and more. There's models for sale. books for sale, articles to read, online links to games. kind of a pain in the *** he doesn't have all of that committed to memory, but we all get old.

But seriously, go online to the Russian Army museum. Go to the Littlefield auction- I live next door to it and I'll see you there and buy you a beer.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, July 30, 2014 10:30 AM
Beer? Somebody is buying???

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

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Posted by RBaer on Thursday, July 31, 2014 4:07 PM

Next door to the Littlefield collection?.... er.....   auction?

Say when.

Apprentice rivet counter.

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Posted by EasyMike on Friday, August 1, 2014 11:23 AM

... I wish I knew something of that battle...

You should have absolutely no trouble finding written material on the Battle of Kursk.

Knowledge is power.

2 cents

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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, August 1, 2014 11:48 AM

Insight? Well I suppose one could say that Kursk is where Germany lost the war in the East. A roll of the armored dice that failed.

Beyond that, it was such a massive undertaking on both sides that the battle is not easy to discuss briefly.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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Posted by BlackSheepTwoOneFour on Friday, August 1, 2014 12:23 PM

Last night I was reading a sample of Kursk: The Greatest Tank Battle - Eastern Front 1943 on my Nook. Very interesting read. It's on my must read list for sure. :)

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Posted by hogfanfs on Friday, August 1, 2014 1:16 PM

The American Heroes Channel (Formerly The Military Channel) has a series call Greatest Tank Battles. One of the episodes was about the Battle of Kursk.

I like the series, but, was hoping to get opinions here on the accuracy of the series content.

 Bruce

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, August 1, 2014 1:56 PM

I saw one episode of that show that was on Kursk. But as is typical of that show, they zeroed in on one engagement there. In this particular case it was on the northern portion of the battlefield involving Sug IIIs assaulting near Ponyri. In a battle so massive as Kursk, that was just a small portion. Sort of how the series Band of Brothers shows E 2/506 on D-Day. Just one part of the huge event.. I can not vouce for series accuracy, but it jived with most of what I have read about the battle.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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Posted by waynec on Monday, August 4, 2014 3:37 PM

THE BATTLE OF KURSK by David Glantz

and take a deep breath. all of us know how do to searches on the web. sometimes it's just more efficient to ask and sometimes there is experience related information passed on.

Никто не Забыт    (No one is Forgotten)
Ничто не Забыто  (Nothing is Forgotten)

 

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Posted by JohanT on Monday, August 4, 2014 4:51 PM

What was the question?

Sometimes I feel sadend on these pages, and rest in memorial.

So many men died in this strategically important battle and we split hair - about what?

Johan

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