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WIP: MK5/1 Centurion for 50th Ann. Vietnam GB updated 8/18

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  • Member since
    December 2008
  • From: Goffstown, NH
WIP: MK5/1 Centurion for 50th Ann. Vietnam GB updated 8/18
Posted by New Hampshire on Monday, August 4, 2014 7:47 PM

For the 50th Anniversary Vietnam War Group Build I have decided to finally dust off a build I have had on the shelf for some time.  I had always wanted to do a tribute to the Anzac participation in Vietnam, and this group build offered the perfect opportunity.  Today the group build kicked off, so the fun has now begun.  I hope to not only to chronicle the build, but pepper this thread with tidbits of Anzac history in the war as well as equipment use.  So first things first:

A brief history of Anzac participation.

With WW2 over and done, the Aussies and Kiwis were left with the realization that Great Britain was a world away, and that they were in essence on their own in the world of regional politics.  They may walk, talk and act (well, mostly Big Smile) like Englishmen, the fact was England was dealing with Germans, French and the great Western Powers while Australia and New Zealand were knee deep in Asian politics.  It was this realization that lead the two countries to sign the ANZUS treaty with the U.S. on September 1st, 1951.  It would be this treaty that would begin the basis for Aussie/Kiwi participation in the Asian wars to come.

The Aussies and Kiwi's would begin to garner valuable experience on jungle fighting while participating with the British in the Malayan Emergency campaign of 1948-1960.  In 1962 the Aussies would send to Vietnam 30 advisers to assist in training anti-communist forces in jungle fighting techniques.  Like the American's, 1965 would formally turn military advising to actual military participation.  The Aussies would, over the course of the war, send about 61,000 soldiers to Vietnam (incurring 521 KIA's and about 3000 wounded) and New Zealand would send 3,890 (incurring 37 KIA's and 187 wounded....bear in mind New Zealand's Army was/is a small one, so numbers are only half the story).  Both countries would formally end their participation in Vietnam by December 1972 with the last troops withdrawn by 1973 (though the Aussies would temporarily send troops back in 1975 to assist in evacuations during the Fall of Saigon).

The Kit:

I will be building the AFV club Centurion Mk5/1 in 1/35 scale.  Additional goodies are their mantlet cover and styrene workable tracks.

Reference Material:

Besides the internet, the books I will be using for reference material is:

Mud and Dust by Michael K Cecil

The Australian Army by Jefferey Grey

Squadron's Centurion In Action

Other than that, a fairly small start on for tonight.  Bucking the trend of starting with the lower hull I decided to start on the turret because....well, because I can. Wink  Already the turret proved annoying.  It is basically molded so that you have a turret bottom, 2 sides and a top.  It makes for awkward seams that will need blending and fiddling to get the top to set right all around.  But Tamiya thin and some Zap-A-Gap seems to be working.

So that's about it for the moment.  I don't know how long this will take, and I do plan on trying a few new ideas as well as possibly building in an order (like, for instance, building the turret before the hull Cool )

'Till next update.

Brian

cml
  • Member since
    March 2007
  • From: Brisbane, Australia
Posted by cml on Tuesday, August 5, 2014 7:23 AM

Nice WIP Brian.

As an Aussie, I'll be following this for sure!

Chris

  • Member since
    December 2008
  • From: Goffstown, NH
Posted by New Hampshire on Wednesday, August 6, 2014 5:58 PM

Thanks Chris!  I hope not to disappoint you fellas from Down Under. Cool

Brian

  • Member since
    November 2009
  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Thursday, August 7, 2014 8:25 AM

Very cool NH, I've got one of those in my stash, not sure why since I don't buy much Vietnam era hardware, but I'm looking forward to seeing how she comes together. Curious to see how some of the parts like the metal springs on the suspension work for you.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

  • Member since
    December 2008
  • From: Goffstown, NH
Posted by New Hampshire on Monday, August 18, 2014 5:36 PM

Hey Gamera,

So far this one is a bit of a beast.  Some interesting fits, and other quirkiness in the way AFV Club decided to mold stuff.  And this is just on the turret!

Brian

  • Member since
    December 2008
  • From: Goffstown, NH
Posted by New Hampshire on Monday, August 18, 2014 6:01 PM

Fast Fact: The Australians purchased 51 Centurion MK5's between 1955 and 1956, most of which were upgraded to the MK5/1 in the early 1960's.  All told, between MK3's, MK5's, armored recovery vehicles and bridgelayers 150 were bought.

OK, so I am obviously not breaking any speed records, but I always knew this would be a slow build.  This beast has offered me some problems to overcome, one, to be fair, of my own making. 

First off I discovered too late I out the wrong mantlet on the front.  With some deft snipping with my Xuron sprue cutters and the old hobby knife I managed to get the correct one on. 

Next, I moved on to the bustle rack.  AFV club chose to mold it in 6 pieces, and some of the joins are in bad places.  Thankfully it winds up a bit hidden with the netting you glue on.

Next problem was in the aftermarket mantlet cover.  Ooof, what a bear.  It was slightly undersized, but because it is soft (vinyl perhaps) I was able to stretch it out.  But it took a massive amount of Zap-a-gap to get it to stay in place.  Hopefully the thing stays and also that the glue join is not too obvious.

Next oddity is the clear parts.  The clear sprue is super soft....it glues like styrene, but it has an almost vinyl springiness to it.  Also, with the commanders cupola there is no locator pin so you basically have to eyeball it into it's proper position.

Other than that, I carved off the molded on conduit to the smoke dischargers and replaced them with more realistic copper wire.  I also decided to leave off the turret baskets on one side for reasons that will be clear further into the build.  I am also thinking of leaving off the hatches until I decide on if I want to add figures or not.  I am also debating making a Miliput tarp for the bustle rack which I will stuff with stowage.  I had considered doing this even before cracking open the box, but am thinking of doing it more now to hide some of the minor flaws on the bustle rack.

That's about it for now.

Brian

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