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Posted by stikpusher on Saturday, December 27, 2014 12:08 AM

I think that the JNA followed the Sovier model of never getting rid of old equipment. Instead they put it in storage for "just in case" after it was replaced by newer stuff. And that stuff found its way to the various forces of the Yugoslav wars if the 90s.

 

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Posted by castelnuovo on Friday, December 26, 2014 11:49 PM

Interesting tread this one. I was surprised just how much ww2 stuff was there. I saw a Croat guy with one of those early German sub-machine guns as well as T-34s. At the time I didn't give  rat's Censored  what era were they from, just what sign was painted on them. Now it is interesting to read about them.

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, December 25, 2014 3:09 PM

I never saw any T-34's on the move, but then my first tour was in late 97. But I did see a pink T-34 on display at a Dutch base. I can only assume it was the Dutch that painted it, damn I wish now I had got some pics of it.

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Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, December 25, 2014 2:42 PM

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I do recall seeing an M18 turret on a T-55 chassis, or something similar during the 1990s conflict.

 

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Wednesday, December 24, 2014 10:04 AM

I do recall seeing an M18 turret on a T-55 chassis, or something similar during the 1990s conflict.

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Posted by waynec on Wednesday, December 24, 2014 9:59 AM

Rob Gronovius

Remember, many Hollywood films use whatever tanks are available to represent tanks from current conflicts. While I imagine Bosnia really does use T-34/85 tanks, just because you see them in a fictional movie doesn't make it correct.

how true because we know from the movies the wehrmacht used M-47s (battle of the bulge) and M-48s (patton).

isn't there a yugoslavian FLAK 38(4) mounted on an M-5 chassis picture floating around?

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Posted by Rob S. on Wednesday, December 24, 2014 7:54 AM

Great pic!

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Posted by cb1 on Wednesday, December 24, 2014 4:31 AM

If I recall, this was taken shortly after the war in Bosnia/Serbia/Croatia, The original poster didn't quite say where. but it is in former Yugoslavia.

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Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, December 23, 2014 10:43 PM

Ok, I ran into your successors a few years later in Banja Luka... And all sorts of other folks around that place.

 

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Posted by Rob S. on Tuesday, December 23, 2014 10:37 PM

Ah, no big secret Stik, no OPSEC violations for a 20 yr old op.  I was part of the Canadian Multi-national Brigade HQ back then. That day, we were following a column of British Scimitars, FV432s and Landrovers in a road move/patrol around our AOR. We started in Corilici (our operational HQ) then toured south through Bihac across to Bosanski Krupa (sp?) where we (Cdn Signallers) set up a Radio detachment with the Czech Bn guys (can't remember their outfit, thinking they were Airborne Bn troops outfitted with BMP 2s of which they didn't know how to drive as there were more dings in those things than you could shake a stick at!!). Nope, nothing here was OPSEC, all public record...LOL

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Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, December 23, 2014 10:25 PM

I hear ya... I was just curious as to where... and of course why... but not that you would have an answer for the why.

 

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Posted by Rob S. on Tuesday, December 23, 2014 10:12 PM

Hey Stik...it was prob near Ljubia, actually between there and Prijedor...been almost 20 years, so, I can't remember exactly....was cool to see, though!

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Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, December 23, 2014 5:16 PM

I imagine that it was a T-34/85 variant. I can't imagine any T-34/76s still being in service, or if the JNA ever had any of those.  Just curious, but what part of the country was the "no photo" zone you mention?

 

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Posted by Rob S. on Tuesday, December 23, 2014 5:05 PM

I personally witnessed BosnianT-34's while on patrol in Bosnia in 96. Wanted to take pics but we were in a 'no photo' zone (and they meant it). I don't recall the version of T-34, but, I just remember being dumbfounded to actually see moving T-34s in the Mid-90s.

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Posted by T26E4 on Monday, December 22, 2014 12:33 PM

Here's a story about a Serb T-34/85 www.achtungpanzer.com/serbian-t-3485.htm

Bosnian T-34s  armorama.kitmaker.net/modules.php

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Posted by HeavyArty on Monday, December 22, 2014 11:22 AM

M18 and M36 tank destroyers were common too.  

Check out this thread to see a bunch of them, along with other tanks used. 

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Monday, December 22, 2014 10:50 AM

Remember, many Hollywood films use whatever tanks are available to represent tanks from current conflicts. While I imagine Bosnia really does use T-34/85 tanks, just because you see them in a fictional movie doesn't make it correct.

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Posted by stikpusher on Monday, December 22, 2014 10:50 AM

LOL! Oh that movie... Yes, lots of Soviet built stuff there too. Although it was a SA-6 that downed Capt O'Gradys F-16 in June in the actual incident that the film was vey loosely based upon. The Yugoslavs under Tito developed a pretty robust arms industry, sort of comparable to Israel's. They had indiginous designs or modified various Soviet or European designs. In the run up to the Bosnian War, before the dissolution of Yugoslavia, Milosovich transferred JNA soldiers of Bosnian Serb descent and heavy equipment into the province for use by Bosnian Serb forces once the break up and war began. The Bosnian Muslims had no such patron in the Yugoslav political or military command structure pre war.

 

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Posted by CarnivourousDonut on Monday, December 22, 2014 9:05 AM

Ok, I watched "Behind Enemy Lines" the other day and I swore I saw a T34-85. Glad to know I wasn't completely braindead.

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Posted by Vladimir on Monday, December 22, 2014 2:34 AM

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Posted by Vladimir on Monday, December 22, 2014 2:24 AM

also t-34-85. by the way there are interesting modifications of it . additional armor of t-34

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Posted by stikpusher on Sunday, December 21, 2014 8:28 PM

Mostly T-55 family. But you'll also see older US equipment  of the Sherman family. And some some of the Yugoslav built T-72 variant, the M-84.

 

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Bosnian war tanks
Posted by CarnivourousDonut on Sunday, December 21, 2014 8:17 PM

What tanks would the various factions have used in the Bosnian war?

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