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Requesting Figure Suggestions! 1/35 Hetzer-Starr by Trumpeter - (New Airbrush Practice Piece!)

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Requesting Figure Suggestions! 1/35 Hetzer-Starr by Trumpeter - (New Airbrush Practice Piece!)
Posted by psstoff995 on Sunday, April 12, 2015 11:14 PM

I got a new airbrush recently. It's an iwata Eclipse HP-CS. It's gravity fed from a 1/3 oz. cup (big enough to prevent even me from sloshing paint out!) and it's a double action. I've never used a double action before, so before I attacked my MaxxPro kit with it, I wanted to try it out on something I was less involved in. I got this Hetzer kit from a local hobby shop, 50% off for about $26. I even looked online and couldn't find a better deal on that specific kit especially when shipping was taken into account, so needless to say, I was pretty happy with the purchase.

I'd always like the low profile, geometric look of the Hetzer and I remembered a cool camo job our own Karl Logan (the doog) had given one back in the day (and he linked me to which was very convenient) so I decided I'd try my hand at replicating a similar vehicle... even though according to my quick reference, all the Starr configurations had a hard-edged scheme. The Hetzer-Starr by the way (Starr meaning rigid, as in the AT gun was mounted rigidly to the hull with no recoil system and required the vehicle to be in neutral, breaks off) was produced towards the very end of the war, maybe 15 built at the most. When all was said and done, all were either converted back to standard Hetzers or destroyed by the end of the war. 

Here was the first test of the iwatat- the (almost complete) engine kit offered by Trumpeter (missing some tubes and things in a few spots. Plus I'm sure all the other stuff I don't even know about).

I did it up in a heavily weathered "Hull Red", as I'd seen somewhere that the older, gray engine interiors had changed color out of the factory to hull red towards the end of the war. Or... if that's not really true, then my model is actually of the 16th Hetzer-Starr built in 1946 and they wanted to make that one hull red. Whichever works? Here's a pretty thorough build review that's helped me out along the way- pretty much where I got my hull red inspiration as well as all the colors of the engine bits.

Mock up:

The rigid mounting system didn't prove to be very effective as it really shook up the crew and the optics to the point of making it, for all intents and purposes, a one-shot vehicle with no reliable follow-up capabilities. So given this near-paper-panzer history, I figured maybe with a little less Allied pressure on the Germans, or a little more luck in the rigid mount system right off the bat, the Hetzer-Starr could have been a more successful design. Maybe more could have been produced, and maybe one of them could have fallen into the hands of a vehicle commander, Heinrich, that was nostalgic for his earlier camouflaged Hetzers with soft edge patterns. Who knows...

But by 1946 the quality of the German paint had really declined, and as Heinrich had improperly mixed his paint-to-gasoline ratio when he applied this soft edge pattern over the older, hard-edge scheme. Not to mention he failed to fully wash the hull with soap and water, and allow it to properly dry. So it eventually chipped off in places. Even a simple drive through thick woods to a sweet ambush spot scraped off chunks here and there... what a shame.

(Yeah, read as: I was watching a few step by step AFV videos put out by Villejo and Mig on youtube and definitely found myself going overboard on the chipping... I guess after the decals, washes, dust, mud, streaks, rust and other things, I'll have to make the call if it was so bad that it couldn't be toned down by further weathering effects and write it off to poor late-war paint quality and Henrich's half@#$ application in the filed Whistling)

I used some hull red chips in places, but that just looked strange, so I used the darker gray to give it a look more people are... accustomed to? Can't think of how I'm trying to say this. But I think the darker gray with hull red edges adds a little more depth, like the paint went through the primer to the steel or something. Will probably add some silver edges around the hatches and on some big angles in the final steps...

Ah, right. Tracks... AngryCensoredBang Head Oh man! Well. I'm glad I painted it all up first, then decided to worry about the tracks... because the indi link set they give you in this kit made me want to pull my hair out. It's designed to be workable, they give you little pins... I don't know. My blood pressure was up...

I got one side done. Gave up on the pins pretty early on and just used their jig to glue all the links together, then molded them to the wheels while the glue was still set... No longer workable but I never asked for workable tracks so it's all good Wink

The one run of track took me the better part of today (4-6 hours) to complete. Thats from "on the sprue", to clean up, then jig assembly, glue, mold, prime, and finally paint. I will weather them along with the rest of the vehicle once the other run of track is done. Not sure when I'll get to that. Hopefully I don't put it off and just tackle it over the week, a few hours at a time after work.

BUT! I really need a figure! I left the hatch off so I could stick one either half out, or sitting on the tank dangling his legs in, or something like that. If anyone has a link or some photos of a figure they think could really do a stellar performance as Heinrich, I'd really appreciate it. If he winds up looking defeated or sad, that'd be cool too. Either upset with Germany's war effort as the Allies surround them, or at his own application of paint on his Hetzer-Starr as he really should have primed and prepared the hull surface better... tisk tisk

-Chris

US Army Infantryman

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Posted by GMorrison on Sunday, April 12, 2015 11:33 PM

Umm a US GI pointing his M1 carbine down the hatch?

Seriously a nice question.

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Posted by psstoff995 on Sunday, April 12, 2015 11:42 PM

Stick out tongue haha you know I hadn't thought of that approach, that'd be pretty interesting. 1/35 scale hands popping out of the top, surrendering... Hmm Might put some serious thought into it.

Though originally, I was thinking of putting the Hetzer off the side of a road facing East (towards the Czech Republic), covering the retreat of a few Heer Infantry and a motorcycle (think Tamiya's old R75 offering with the side car) heading West (back to the Rhineland) after getting kicked out of Prague...

-Chris

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Posted by GMorrison on Sunday, April 12, 2015 11:53 PM

Yah me too. What would be the uniform? Captured kit ?. On Germans? No way.

Bike- Tamiya's DKW which JAWA built during the war.

www.ebay.com/.../301439174013

I keep thinking a DKM or Luftwaffe unit for the uni's. Don't know why.

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Posted by psstoff995 on Monday, April 13, 2015 12:09 AM

Oh that's a nice looking set. I happen to have this one in the stash, that's the reason I mentioned it. Pretty dated but I think I could sculpt some detail into it. Not sure if these guys look appropriate for late war though(?) again could probably modify them. Really it's the Hetzer figure that's got me scratching my head...

-Chris

US Army Infantryman

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Posted by GMorrison on Monday, April 13, 2015 12:13 AM

It's the markings on the Hetzer that have me scratching my own head.

images.search.yahoo.com/.../view;_ylt=AwrTcYM2UCtVKmYAJ5MunIlQ;_ylu=X3oDMTIzM2pjZDMxBHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDaW1nBG9pZANiNThhNmI4YTljMmRhODgzOTMzMTMxMDQzMWM1Y2I3ZgRncG9zAzQ5BGl0A2Jpbmc-

The Carpathians were holding the line at least in principal with the Hungarians and the Western Ukrainians.

No wonder the world remains so...Fubar.

Anyhow they may very well have been crewing your tank. I'd go with the symbol. and maybe a aerial recognition red/white stripe on top.

Tankers wearing Wehrmacht 1945.

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Posted by GMorrison on Monday, April 13, 2015 12:19 AM

So how do you label hot links?

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Posted by psstoff995 on Monday, April 13, 2015 12:44 AM

You have to click where it says "Use rich formatting" when you reply.

Highlight the link you wish to label. Then click the little "chain link"/hyperlink symbol. It's between the "Paste from Word" and "Inserts a new table" buttons. A pop up should show your hot link as the "Link URL" then the very bottom option should say "Title" -in that box, type in whatever you want, and that will be the label for your hot link.

Honestly for the vehicle markings I'll probably just throw on the kit supplied Balkenkreuz and maybe some of the red/white numbers and call it a day? I'm really playing fast and loose with historical accuracy on this build and am not overly concerned with portraying an actual vehicle or unit.

Some pictures of the Prague uprising Hetzers have some pretty wild markings and graffiti though. I don't know who had been using them before they entered in the Czech insurgent's service, though, I haven't really done a lot of research.

-Chris

US Army Infantryman

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