Early war panzer dude

Thanks, that will be very useful unifoem info. I have a few Osprey books and some other color sources but it's nice to fill in the gaps (and there are always gaps in color plate sources).

Mike

Thanks for panzer uniform 101. Bet lots of guys have saved/will save this bit!!!

Larry. Have built the DML crew and would recommend the kit as a cheap alternative for just a waist up figure. The guy with the field glasses would fit the 38t nicely, but the guy with the pipe would look a little strange talking to himself .

The other figures can be used just about anywhere, just the guy with his arm on the gun shield may need some surgery if put in anything other than a stug. Oh, I think the kit includes a pe fret for the mike and headsets, although the metal is as stiff as and difficult to shape.

Larry,
The Schutzmutze or Panzer Beret was used until January 1941 when it was phased out and replaced with the M1934 field cap (feldmutze or "little ship").
The inner component of the beret was a hard rubber skull cap covered in black wool. The interior was llined with black oilskin and had a leather sweatband. This was actually a two piece construction in that the outer beret component was made of a single piece of wool with an elasticated base which fitted into a groove around the bottom of the crash cap. The insignia was a large oakleaf wreath embroidered on the front of the beret. In the center was the metal national cockade. (the white or silver circle with the red center.) In 1936 the national insignia of the eagle and swastika was added. In 1937 the whole thing was replaced with the one piece woven, wrath, ealge and cockade. Silver for officers and white for enlisted men.

Black was the uniform for Panzer troops.
Field grey was for self propelled and assault guns.
Panzergrenadiers who were mechanized infantry operated from apc's and also wore the panzer cut field grey uniform.
Panzerjager and Sturmartllerie units that operated the SP assault guns had the lighter fieldgrau. (This color varied from lighter to darker as the war progressed.) By the end of the war the color was a grey green and varied greatly in tone.

The jacket for the french campaign in 1940 would be the 1st pattern or 2nd pattern which was the short waisted, double breasted jacket with black plastic buttons. The first pattern had the rose colored piping on the collar. The 2nd pattern jacket had the piping as well but the original theory that the piping was removed after 1942 on the 3rd pattern jacket has since been changed since there is several pieces of photo documentation showing the some examples of the 2nd pattern jacket without the collar piping. This includeds the 1940 french campaign.

I highly reccomend Army Panzer Uniforms by Wade Krawczyk if you wish to have a good source of reference for the different types of uniforms used by the Panzertruppe and its related branches. Also The German Army in World War II by Nigel Thomas. Both are excellent references.

Mike

The guys pretty much covered it for figures and heads. To answer your question regarding the Dragon figure's uniforms.... yup, a.o.k. for 1940. While the box art may look like it is dark grey, the uniform is black.

Mike

QUOTE: Originally posted by Captain Caveman ive found a picture from here http://www.modelwarehouse.biz/87/108.htm?97

Love those guys, Caveman! Gotta look for them. I wonder though if the uniform is right for panzermen in '40?

QUOTE: but the figures in my Tamiya Pzkpfw IV-D seem to fit that description. posted by wildwilliam

Thats what I was going to say. I did that kit by the way and it wasn't the best in the world. Maybe it wasn't good because I'm not intrested in Panzers

ive found a picture

from here http://www.modelwarehouse.biz/87/108.htm?97

if you want another kit why dont you try the Tristar Panzer 1 with Modelkasten tracks


http://pmms.webace.com.au/reviews/vehicles/tristar/tristar.htm

or go
or try Hornet heads
or theres the Dragon DML 6029 Sturmartillerie Crew
they have the old cloth helets and would look good in a tank i think there OOP but if you have a look about you might find them?

if you see the kit and check out the box art, you will get a good idea what the figures look like.
i am not a figure 'fan' (as their painting gives me fits), but these look pretty well
molded to me.

the IV-D would be another fun kit to do w/ your son.
it was the first armor kit i started, tho it looks to be the 3rd one i will finish.
no reflection on the kit.
just the lure of the Panther GB, and the weekend GB were to powerful to resist.
:-)

it has options for early, late & Afrika versions w/ extra armor plating,
turret storage bin add-on, and different engine grill covers.
i am doing the early,
but i am tempted to snag another to do the desert one.

if i had a second one, i would give you the figs!

ed.

QUOTE: Originally posted by wildwilliam this is not much of an answer, i suppose, but the figures in my Tamiya Pzkpfw IV-D seem to fit that description. you mean the oversized beret, right? like here:

Not a bad idea! Maybe I will do that. Only thing is that I have plenty of kits to build as it is. If I can find a resin dude for $7-9, I'll save myself some money and have one less tank hanging over my head.

I'll have to check around a bit more. Maybe I will spring for the panzer IV after all ....

I'm after the same thing Larry. I just got an Italeri Kommando Panzer, and it has a figure, but he has got his hands in his pockets! I may have to have his head for that!

All the photos show them in very similar poses up the top, so I wanted one very similar...might have to look at that Tamiya kit too.

this is not much of an answer, i suppose,
but the figures in my Tamiya Pzkpfw IV-D seem to fit that description.
you mean the oversized beret, right?
like here:


not sure if you can pick up the kit cheap, or try to get them as 'replacement parts'
(just the figure sprue)
based on the price of most figure sets, that tank w/ the figs is a great deal!

i saw this on greatmodels,
http://www.greatmodels.com/cgi/display.cgi?item_num=ic35271
it's an ICM set


they also list a Verlinden set (discontinued but in stock) #677 that is labeled 'early'
(no picture)

me, i'd buy the IV-D for $18 and take the figures.
it's a nice little kit.

ed.

D'oh! 1/35th. I'm looking for a really nice half figure for the commander's cuploa of my Panzer 38t.

Too bad Ultracast doesn't make one. Those things are gorgeous.

What scale?