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In Progress Tamiya 1/35 Stug IV

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In Progress Tamiya 1/35 Stug IV
Posted by jkeller on Monday, March 8, 2004 7:42 PM
Here are some progress pictures of my 1/35 Tamiya Stug IV. I am using Eduard's PE set. This is my first time using a PE set. I have to say it does add days to a project. There are still alot more parts to glue. Comments and tips welcomed.




Joe
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, March 8, 2004 7:52 PM
looks good
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Posted by Buddho on Monday, March 8, 2004 8:02 PM
Nice looking zimmerit, Joe...

Regards, Dan

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Posted by jkeller on Monday, March 8, 2004 8:10 PM
Thanks guys. There is one thing I wasn't sure of...should I apply zimmerit to the front and rear fenders? The PE set didn't come that way but doesn't mean that it's right. My reference photos hasn't shown one without zimmerit on the fenders.

Joe
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Posted by tigerman on Monday, March 8, 2004 10:57 PM
Good looking job so far Joe. Looking forward to more.

   http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/wing_nut_5o/PANZERJAGERGB.jpg

 Eric 

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Posted by Build22 on Tuesday, March 9, 2004 5:21 AM

Looks good so far Thumbs Up [tup]

Nice detail


Jim [IMG]
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 9, 2004 6:33 AM
A nice build going so far, Joe!

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Posted by spector822002 on Tuesday, March 9, 2004 6:47 AM
I have seen pictures of stug4 w/ zimm , and there was none on the fenders . I believe they were more concerned with hull penetration from magnetic mines as there is no hull above or below the fenders they probably would skip that . Real nice detail job you have going there the PE stuf f when done is almost too pretty to paint ! Keep up the good work !Cool [8D]
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 9, 2004 7:07 AM
Looks great Joe, hope to see it when it's done!
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Posted by M1abramsRules on Tuesday, March 9, 2004 7:10 AM
great looking stug so far!!!
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Posted by wildwilliam on Tuesday, March 9, 2004 7:18 AM
Joe,
looking good!
my only suggestion from my experience w/ the PE Zim on my Panther G,
is that you will have to work the edges of the PE where two (or more) pieces meet.
i pushed the edges down as much as possible, and used some Tamiya putty
to fill the gap. trouble spots are usually where two sheets meet especially at an angle.

you probably already knew this and had not gotten to that step yet.
you have definitely done a good job w/ it so far.

keep us posted,
ed.
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Posted by nmayhew on Tuesday, March 9, 2004 9:17 AM
jkeller hiSmile [:)]
looks real good from here!!Cool [8D]
and wildwilliam thanks for that tip...i was wondering about that.Smile [:)]
regards,
nick
Kind regards, Nicholas
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Posted by jkeller on Tuesday, March 9, 2004 11:31 AM
Spector822002: Thanks for the info. That's good news because I wasn't sure how I was going to be able to match the PE zimm. I think i'll leave the zimm off the fenders. The copper and silver do look cool. When I do paint it I hope I don't mess that up. I have a spare tank I think i'll practice on first.

Wildwilliam: Thanks for the tip. Actually I wasn't really sure how to fix some areas. I started bending some of the PE zimm overlap but in some places it couldn't be done. Will Squadron green putty will work just as good?
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Posted by lizardqing on Tuesday, March 9, 2004 1:57 PM
Looking good. Hope you have had beeter luck with keeping the glue on the zim and not yourself than i did with my panther.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 9, 2004 4:54 PM
You have more patience that I do with PE! Wow! Very nice.

Ron
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 9, 2004 5:19 PM
Hey Joe, I'll add my "nice work!" to the comments. Looks like you have a handsome model on your hands.

Based on photos I've seen, it looks like the Germans put Zimmerit all over everything vertical in 1943 and early 44. Later, they seem to have abandoned the practice of putting it on fenders and schurzen. Even in the earlier period, it quickly wore off as the fenders got banged up and rubbed against foliage. I think it's totally fine to leave it off.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 9, 2004 5:22 PM
Lookin' good
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Posted by jkeller on Tuesday, March 9, 2004 6:32 PM
Thanks again for the comments.
Lizardqing2: I think I got more glue on my hands than on my model. I was thinking of using a toothpick put some type of poster putty on the end that will hold the PE parts until there are in place. The tweezers and fingers just aren't doing the job.

Larry: Thanks for the info. Leaving it off would be better for me.

Joe
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Posted by mark956 on Tuesday, March 9, 2004 7:55 PM
Very nice Joe. Thanks for sharing the pictures with us.
mark956
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Posted by wildwilliam on Wednesday, March 10, 2004 7:05 AM
Joe,
any putty should work, but you will need to texture it a bit so it just looks like more zim.
so you can continue the pattern of lines thru it, or depending on where the seam is,
it could be a row between lines.
try some of the putty on scrap styrene to get a feel for drying time and seing how
'workable' it is.
you might be able to mix it w/ tesors tube glue (or was it liquid cement?)
to make it a bit softer and easier to spread.
DEFINITELY DO NOT try that on your model first.
experiment on scrap styrene!

ed.
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Posted by jkeller on Wednesday, March 10, 2004 5:44 PM
Wildwilliam: Thanks for the tip. Looks like I will be doing alot of experimenting on that spare tank.

Thanks again, Joe
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Posted by wildwilliam on Thursday, March 11, 2004 6:24 AM
Joe,
no problem, be sure to post more pics as you go along.
and don't worry too much about exactly how the gap filling works out.
it does not need to be a work of art,
it just needs to blend enough so the viewr ignores it.
ed.
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Posted by zokissima on Thursday, March 11, 2004 7:36 AM
Good job on the zimm. What can you say about the PE set?
Hehe, it looks like you put a lot of work into this so far, especially in all the PE additions. Kind of a pain to paint it all and hide your work :)
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Posted by jkeller on Thursday, March 11, 2004 6:41 PM
Zokissima: Thanks. Regarding the PE set, the PE Zim is definitely a savings. I’ve never tried to apply zim with putty but I assume it’s more time consuming. I have both PE sets, the exterior and schurzen. I’ve used only 20% of the exterior set so far and haven’t used the schurzen set yet. So far the PE set added detail that wasn’t there and fixed parts that were not molded properly. I don’t like the chain in the set because they are flat. I have some fine and extra fine chains from Tiger Model Designs that I will use instead. Your right about painting it. It seems like a shame but if I don’t mess it up (I keep saying this because this is only my 2nd model since I left the hobby in 86’[:0]) I’m hoping to bring out some of the detail by dry brushing and washes.Smile [:)]

Joe
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Posted by wildwilliam on Friday, March 12, 2004 10:33 AM
Joe,
if you are using an airbrush and are careful, the zim texture will show nicely.
it might get lost if you brush paint.

a few words of advice on airbrushing the PE Zim
(from hard experience on my Panther)
1) make sure your Zim is nice & clean. by this i mean from any glue residue, etc.
because the glue will disrupt the pattern of the zim, and will be horribly obvious
once the paint is down. i 'learned' this when i shot my primer. i had to go back and
scape out some glue w/ a needle to restore the pattern.

2) i would recommend priming the zim, both for the reason above, and better
adhesion of your base color.
it will also put your variety of surfaces (styrene, brass, resin, whatever)
on an even color 'field.

3) the texture of the zim will prevent your paint from flowing out like it would on
smooth plastic. be extra careful to keep it light & even.
i also 'learned' this while priming.
once again, the needle came in handy for clearing out 'clogged' pattern.
build up the paint slowly, and keep it pretty 'dry'.
because it will not flow out much at all.

4) remember if you are going to prime (and you should) and shoot a base color
and a multi color camo scheme, you could be shooting 3 or 4 layers of paint in
some areas.
so remember - try to keep it light, and build it up slowly.

all that aside, it is not as difficult as i have made it sound.
i am a armor novice, and certainly no airbrush expert, and i was pleased overall
w/ my results.

just want to give you a 'heads up' on the trickiest parts.

ed.
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Posted by jkeller on Friday, March 12, 2004 6:53 PM
Wildwilliam: Yes, I will definitely be using a airbrush. Thanks for your sharing your experiences. I did take a look at your Panther and hopefully my Stug with come out as good as yours. Excellent job.Thumbs Up [tup]

(EDIT)
Wildwilliam: oops maybe it wasn't yours that I saw sorry. There are alot of Panthers around here. Do you have any pictures?

Joe
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Posted by wildwilliam on Sunday, March 14, 2004 7:54 PM
Joe,
i'll pretend it was mine. :-)
mine is on this page of the Panther GB
http://www.finescale.com/fsm/community/forum/topic.asp?page=90&TOPIC_ID=9124
(tow cables have been moved since thses pictures)

there are also pics of mine on Claymore's site, tho i never finished posting the completed stuff.
(i am a lazy procrastinator)
the easiest way to get to Derek's (Claymore's) site is to open the Panther build sticky to the first page.
under Claymore's signature stuff is a line that says Profile Email Web etc
click on "web"
(his site has an at sign in it, so if i put it in this post, the editor will just mangle it.)

the pics on the bottom of page 8 of my rambling narrative are probably the most detailed.
sadly, i am an even worse photographer than i am a builder!
:-0
but that does not seem to keep me from passing out advice.

i really have to get the rest of my build posted.
just for the sake of completeness.

ed.
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