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Fine Molds 1/35 Type 4 Chi-To WIP

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Posted by hogfanfs on Tuesday, February 19, 2019 8:15 AM

Thanks, Bish!

 Bruce

 

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, February 19, 2019 7:53 AM

Good to see this finished Bruce, its come out well. I like the weathering, its got a nice ground in dust look, spot on.

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Posted by hogfanfs on Monday, February 18, 2019 11:37 AM

Thanks, OkieDude!

 Bruce

 

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Posted by OkieDude on Monday, February 18, 2019 8:14 AM
looks good!
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Posted by hogfanfs on Monday, February 18, 2019 6:27 AM

Thanks, Cliff! Yeah, three years, kind of sad it took so long. 

I'm going to save the pin technique for the next kit that has rubberband tracks. 

 Bruce

 

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Posted by Gamera on Sunday, February 17, 2019 5:07 PM

Bruce: She turned out great! Love the camo and weathering!

Gee, three years, has it really been that long? Anyway, the wait was worth it!

 

BTW: You could always use the pin technique to hold down the tracks. Funny that on the Type 5 FineMolds added separate link tracks but not on this one.

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Posted by hogfanfs on Saturday, February 16, 2019 1:05 PM

I'm calling the tank finished.

I added the road wheels and tracks. I used the supplied tracks from Fine Molds, and I really do not like them. I could not find AM tracks for this tank. The stock tracks have no sag at all, and are extremely tight on the wheels. Plus I have a few floaties as well. So, originally, I was going to put this tank on a base with a Japanese Torii, but since it did not turn out that well, it will sit on it's own. I do have a figure that I will finish and then this build will be complete.

For my first tank build in over twenty years, all in all not too bad, and I did learn several new techniques.

Hope you enjoy. Let me know what you think.

 Bruce

 

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Posted by hogfanfs on Tuesday, September 11, 2018 6:31 AM

It was a fun learning experience, that I may use again. But, not on the Merkava...

 Bruce

 

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, September 11, 2018 6:24 AM

Its easilydone, there are very few spots there would be any chipping. Some people seem to think that the slightest touch of a branch will remove half the paint.

But yours is nothing that stands out hugely.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by hogfanfs on Tuesday, September 11, 2018 6:01 AM

Yeah, it's overdone for what I was intending. I was having fun, and then I realized why would there be a chip in that spot. 

 Bruce

 

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, September 11, 2018 2:04 AM

I am not a fan of heavy chipping, i certainly would not add any more. If i do add any, its usually just on sharp edges that might see a lot of wear with people climbing over it.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, September 10, 2018 4:56 PM

Maybe a little, I think I'd leave as it is though.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by hogfanfs on Monday, September 10, 2018 4:29 PM

Gamera

Bruce: Hey fantastic to see you back to work on her!!! Love how she's coming along. Heart

 

Thanks, Cliff! What's your opinion on the chipping? I think I over did it a bit.

 Bruce

 

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Posted by hogfanfs on Monday, September 10, 2018 4:28 PM

Bish

Good to see you back at this Bruce, great work on the camo.

 

Thanks, Bish!

 Bruce

 

 On the bench:  1/48 Eduard MiG-21MF

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, September 10, 2018 4:23 PM

Bruce: Hey fantastic to see you back to work on her!!! Love how she's coming along. Heart

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Posted by hogfanfs on Monday, September 10, 2018 3:36 PM

I got some chipping done on the Type 4. This was my first attempt, and I'm not real happy with how it turned out. Let me know your thoughts.

I'm waiting for some Wilder Rusting effects to come in then I'll finish doing some rust on the hull and the turret. Then some mudding. More to come...

Thanks for looking...

 Bruce

 

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Posted by hogfanfs on Monday, September 10, 2018 3:34 PM

I got the pin wash complete, and this weekend I'm chipping her up and rusting her a bit. Then, with a little luck, I'll start mudding her too.

More to come...

 Bruce

 

 On the bench:  1/48 Eduard MiG-21MF

                        1/35 Takom Merkava Mk.I

 

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Posted by hogfanfs on Monday, September 10, 2018 3:33 PM

I finally got the screens added and the tow cables attached. This is my first attempt at adding rust affects to model and i'm relatively pleased with the results. 

Let me know your thoughts, granted the pictures make the rust brighter than on the actual model. 

I have to finish the pin wash, then add some rust effects to the turrent and hull, then I'll be close to finishing the tank. Then to the dio base and a couple figures.

I do hope to make the finish date. 

EDIT: I'm going to post some better pictures, most likely this weekend. 

 Bruce

 

 On the bench:  1/48 Eduard MiG-21MF

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Posted by hogfanfs on Monday, September 10, 2018 3:32 PM

I'm getting closer on the Type 4. I haven't had a lot of time the last month. Anyway, I have the exhaust almost completed. The exhaust cans are protected by a screen, which I will show in the next update. Here are the completed exhaust cans:

Next I'll finish off the screens, I tried to bang them up a bit, then will chips and rust on them. Then finish adding the tow cables. I hope to finish the pin wash, chipping and rusting soon.

Then I will attempt my first figure for this tank.

 Bruce

 

 On the bench:  1/48 Eduard MiG-21MF

                        1/35 Takom Merkava Mk.I

 

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Posted by hogfanfs on Monday, September 10, 2018 3:31 PM

I haven't had much time at the bench the last month. Anyway, here is a quick update on the Type 4.

I added the tools. 

I have a piece (not sure what it's called) that will be placed over these tools. I painted it the base parched grass color. However, it was from a different Vallejo bottle and  subsequently was a slightly different shade. So, I had to spray it again from the original bottle that I used for the whole tank. Once I get the piece placed and the hatches intsalled, I'll finish the shadowing.

Also, I put together the Torii and the gates.

They are vacuum formed pieces which needed to be cut out, and lots of clean up. I still have to get them puttied. But they will be placed on this base.

It's a nice little base which really represents a Japanese tank well. I still have more weathering to do on the tank, pictures to come soon.

Thanks for looking.

 Bruce

 

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Posted by hogfanfs on Monday, September 10, 2018 3:27 PM

Ok, a quick update on the Type 4. I finished the dot filter with Wilder oil paints. I'm really liking how these Wilder product work. Granted, I still need to get used to them. 

Here are a few pictures.

Next will be a pin wash, but I figured I would get the tools and exhaust installed. Then do some chipping and a few mild rust spots. More to come...

 Bruce

 

 On the bench:  1/48 Eduard MiG-21MF

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Posted by Bish on Monday, September 10, 2018 3:27 PM

Good to see you back at this Bruce, great work on the camo.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by hogfanfs on Monday, September 10, 2018 3:24 PM

A little progress on the Type 4. I applied the decals, and added a filter of Grey-Brown from Wilder. I did this to try to knock down the contrast of the camouflage. 

Next will be a dot filter. Then a pin wash. More to come...

 Bruce

 

 On the bench:  1/48 Eduard MiG-21MF

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Posted by hogfanfs on Monday, September 10, 2018 3:21 PM

I decided to resurrect this WIP since I started to work on this build again.

Here is how the build stands so far:

Here is the state of the kit as I restarted this shelf queen:

You may notice a few scratches on the mantlet and barrel. 

This was from a sneak attack from a metal 14" flash light. Lesson learned: If I'm going to shelf a model, shelf all the pieces.

Here is how the rubber band tracks look after I have painted them. I was not able to find AM tracks for this particular tank, and the reviews I have read stated the only drawback of this kit is the tracks. Doesn't look like I will get the desired sag, but, we will see.

Generally, late war Japanese armor were painted in three colors. The base color was called Parched Grass, which is a primer. Then a Green Grass color, and a Earth Brown color. These show the process of masking the base color. 

Then adding some preshading

Then adding the Earth Brown color. I should have extended the color more than I did. Noted for future builds.

And here it is with all three colors

I have some clean up to do. I used Vallejo Air Acrylics. and used Blue Tac White for the masking. Overall I'm happy with the outcome. Right now, the jury is out on whether I try the preshading like this again. We'll see after I get some weathering completed.

Thanks for looking! More to come...

 Bruce

 

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Posted by hogfanfs on Wednesday, February 17, 2016 8:19 PM

@Tigerman,

Thanks for the comments! I figured an introduction to the tank was in order since not many know about the Japanese tanks. I myself don't know much about them either, but that why I wanted to build one. The research is part of the fun. 

@Gamera,

I hope you get those seems sorted. I've had many seems in this kit, granted they have been cooperating so far. And lots of ejector pin marks. The PE is nice, but quite simple. I've already added two of the engine grills. I'll post those pictures in the next update.

 Bruce

 

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, February 17, 2016 7:34 PM

Hey Bruce, great to see you underway here! I'm kinda bogged down at this moment sanding the seams under the sponsons. If I don't get them done soon I swear I'm going to coat 'mud' all over the area and consider them finished. Or else add some German style armoured skirts.

Interested to see how the PE there works, I thought about getting a set just for the muffler guards but figure the plastic parts are decent enough. And that Vallejo paint, I much prefer it over the Mr. Colour but I've got the Gunze so I'm going to go ahead and use it.

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Posted by tigerman on Wednesday, February 17, 2016 6:52 PM

This will be a cool build. So nice to see something fresh. I admit I knew nothing about it. Thanks for the tute.

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Fine Molds 1/35 Type 4 Chi-To WIP
Posted by hogfanfs on Wednesday, February 17, 2016 6:35 PM

This is my first WIP outside of a Group Build, hope you enjoy:

I am presenting to you my WIP of the Japanese Type 4 “Chi-To” tank. It’s a 1/35 scale model from Fine Molds. First I would like to give a little history of this tank:

 The Type 4 medium tank Chi-To was one of several medium tanks developed by the Imperial Japanese Army towards the end of World War II. While by far the most advanced Japanese wartime tank to reach production, industrial and material shortages resulted in only six chassis being manufactured; only two of these were completed with neither seeing combat.

The Type 4 Chi-To was a thirty-ton, all-welded medium tank with a maximum armor thickness of about 75 millimeters (3.0 in) on the frontal plates.[1] Manned by a crew of five, it was 6.73 m (22.1 ft) long, 2.87 m (9 ft 5 in) high, and 2.87 m (9 ft 5 in) wide. Main armament was a turret-mounted long-barreled 75 mm/L56.4 (4.23 m) gun capable of being elevated between -6.5 to +20 degrees. An 850 meters per second (2,800 ft/s) muzzle velocity gave it an armor penetration of 75 millimeters at 1,000 meters. A single 7.7 mm machine gun was mounted in the hull.
The Type 4's 300 kW (400 hp) gasoline engine was significantly more powerful than the 180 kW (240 hp) engine of the 19-ton Type 3 Chi-Nu,[3] giving it a top speed of 45 km/h (28 mph) on tracks supported by seven road wheels.
 
Development of the Type 4 Chi-To medium tank began in 1943 as an intended successor to the Type 97-kai Shinhoto. The first prototype was delivered in 1944. Similar in appearance but significantly larger than the Type 97, it was the most advanced Japanese tank to reach production.
Intended Type 4 Chi-To output was 25 tanks per month spread over two Mitsubishi Heavy Industries factories. Late war shortage-induced delays caused by the severing of supply lines with conquered territories and U.S. strategic bombing of the Japanese mainland resulted in only six chassis being built by 1945. Just two were completed and neither saw combat.
 
 
And for those of you who are interested:

Japanese Tank Nomenclature

There were Two systems: Order System and Classification System, both of which are under the Army Imperial Year System

Army Imperial Year System

 

The Imperial Year was used as the standard for designating the type, based on the mystical founding of Japan in 660 BC. The accepted practice was to use the last two numbers of the year as a type number, as in the Type 89 medium tank of 1929, with Type 100 for items accepted in 1940. After 1940 only the last digit was used, so Type 2 equipment was accepted in 1942.

Order System

Each tank is given a separate name, based on the order in adaptation. The Type 89 medium tank was the “I-Go”, or “first car/model” while the Type 95 light tank was the “Ha-Go”, or “third car/model” (no second model has been identified).

 Classification System

Starting from the Type 97 Chi-Ha, the naming system was changed to incorporate the classification of the tank. Each tank would get a two letter name, with the first letter standing for the type of tank and the second for the order in which the tanks were developed.

 The majority of tanks fell into three categories – Chi, Ke and Ho, or Medium, Light and Gun, with Chi and Ke used as single character abbreviations for Chiu (or Chui) and Kei. There seems to have been a category for Heavy (O, short for Oo), but this is only “confirmed” in the sense that it was the unofficial name given to the 120 ton tank O-I.

The numbering system used was based on the Iroha, a Japanese poem. This used every character from the Japanese syllabary once, and for a long time was used to put those characters in order (in a rather poetic version of the ABC). The first two lines of the poem, transliterated in roman letters, ran:

 

 

i ro ha ni ho he to

chi ri nu ru wo

 

 

If we summarize the naming system:

Chi: Medium

Ke: Light

Ho: Gun (Tank Destroyer)

O: Heavy

 

1- I or Yi

2 – Ro

3 – Ha

4 – Ni

5 – Ho

6 – He

7 – To

8 – Chi

9 – Ri

10 – Nu

11 – Ru

 

12 – O or Wo

Using the medium tanks as an example:

 

Chi-I (Medium First): None (most likely Experimental Type 1 Tank)

Chi-Ro (Medium Second): Type 89 I-Go

Chi-Ha (Medium Third): Type 97 Chi-Ha

Chi-Ni (Medium Fourth): Type 97 Chi-Ni (never got out of prototype status)

Chi-Ho (Medium Fifth) Type 98 Chi-Ho (never got out of prototype status)

Chi-He (Medium Sixth): Type 1 Chi-He

Chi-To (Medium Seventh): Type 4 Chi-To

Chi-Ri (Medium Ninth): Type 5 Chi-Ri

Chi-Nu (Medium Tenth): Type 3 Chi-Nu

 

Taken from: http://ftr.wot-news.com/2013/12/06/japanese-tank-nomenclature/

 

And here is the kit:
 
 
Here are the extras I purchased:
And my choice in paints, not sure if I'll use the Mr. Color ot Vallejo yet:
And here is the little bit of progess I have. I had to fill some ejector pin marks:
And the lower hull glued:
I haven't decided if I'll paint the hull interior, I only plan to open the top hatches on the turret. 
Stay tuned, more to come.
And as always, comments and critiques are welcome!

 Bruce

 

 On the bench:  1/48 Eduard MiG-21MF

                        1/35 Takom Merkava Mk.I

 

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