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Dragon Panther A Late Type..Finished.

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Dragon Panther A Late Type..Finished.
Posted by Kentucky Colonel on Monday, December 11, 2017 1:16 PM

I've had this kit for a while now and have been thinking about building it. I add some ATAK Zimmerit, Voyger Model Anti-aircraft Armor and "maybe" a Alpline Minature to it. My figure painting has NEVER been worth anything but I'll give it another try.

A little background on this model. About 5-7 years ago on another model forum I saw a model like this and I never forgot it, I liked it so much I wanted to try my hand at doing something like he did. I had saved it in one of my PC's hard drive and just a few weeks later that forum went offline, I can't ever remember the name of the forum but it's not around because I have spend a lot of time looking. Just a couple months later my PC crashed and I lost everything, ever the pictures of the model. I decided to just go ahead and build it trying to remember as best as I can. I'm NOT trying to copy that guys work but just going by what I can remember. Also this is not any real tank I've seen pictures of so the numbers and other detals will just be made up to finish the model.

This happens to be my first time I made some kind of a build log so I am going to make quite a few mistakes like forgetting to take pictures,etc,  except for the extras listed above it will be straight out of the box.

 

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Posted by Kentucky Colonel on Monday, December 11, 2017 1:25 PM

I did start something this summer. The Friulmodel tracks I forgot to list. I wanted to try out my new track jug and this thing makes putting any track together a breeze, makes quick work of the trcks. I can't remember the name but found it on E-bay.

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  • From: Lacey, WA.
Posted by M. Brindos on Monday, December 11, 2017 1:41 PM

Definitely paying attention to this. Big Smile

- Mike Brindos

Figure Painting Moderator -- Genessis-Models

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Posted by RX7850 on Monday, December 11, 2017 1:43 PM

Nice start. Wish those Friuls  were available for 1/72 armor.

 

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Posted by Bish on Monday, December 11, 2017 1:57 PM

Look forward to seeing more of this.

''I am a Norfolk man, and i glory in being so''

  

On the bench: Tamiya 1/72nd Bf 109E-3

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  • From: Parker City, IN.
Posted by Rambo on Monday, December 11, 2017 11:46 PM
Nice start, sounds like you have big plans for her.

Clint

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, December 12, 2017 7:35 AM

Nice work there! Never tried the metal tracks (I'm too cheap to spend more on the treads than the kit) but they're coming along great! Looking forward to seeing how they come out. 

"Fairy tales do not tell children the dragons exist. Children already know that dragons exist. Fairy tales tell children that dragons can be killed." -G.K. Chesterton

 

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Posted by Kien on Tuesday, December 12, 2017 8:49 AM

I have the exact same kit which I got at a show, it was a really good price for a dragon kit. I noticed that it doesn't have zimmerit on it, and since most Panther A had zimmerit I was thinking of getting that same Atak zim set. This will be a good thread to follow since this will definitely be a future build for me. 

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Posted by Kentucky Colonel on Wednesday, December 13, 2017 9:03 AM

I was able to do a little work but maybe I should have waited with Christmas and all that goes with that is here and cutting down on my work time.

I had never used Atak before and wanted to see how it goes so I wanted to see how that went. Instead of starting on the wheels like I do I build the front and back of the tank so I could work with the Atak before using it on the rest of the model.

The Atak is very, very easy to cut off the sheet and with a sharp knife it's easy enough to make some "battle damage" which is what I had hoped I would be able to do. Now came the gule to use with it. I didn't think Tamiya would work and thought super glue was too much. I tried some Elmer's Gule-All Extra Strong Formual and after letting it dry over night I started to "handle" it adding the other parts to the back. While handling it some of the edges started to come lose and the right part of the Atak just came off the back of the model. I added some more of the Elmer's and put some super glue around the edges and it seems to work. I hope I don't have to use super gule too much because the Atak is so thin it could easy tear if it locks in place with the super gule and I need to adjust a part of the Atak. If anybody has any other ideas on what gule to use please let me know.

 

By the way. Those 2 storage boxes on the back and one part of the front are resin that came with the Atak so doing battle damage on them is a little different.

Anyway here's what I've done so far.

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Posted by Marcus McBean on Wednesday, December 13, 2017 9:43 AM

CA glue was the only way I was able to keep the Atak on my Tiger II.  I really liked how well it fitted and like you said, easy to cut and create battle damage.

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Posted by Kentucky Colonel on Sunday, December 17, 2017 10:10 AM

I got some more work done the last couple days but like I said in the first post with Christmas and all the stuff it's getting hard to find time.

On the Atak I've been using more and more CA glue and so far no problems with the parts locking on before I can finish adjustments. I do like the Atack over the Eduard Zimmerit I've worked with before.

 

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Posted by Gamera on Sunday, December 17, 2017 4:13 PM

She's looking good!!!

Last time I used aftermarket zimmerit I used Gatorgrip glue on it. It looks like and acts like a white glue but will hold metal bits like superglue.

"Fairy tales do not tell children the dragons exist. Children already know that dragons exist. Fairy tales tell children that dragons can be killed." -G.K. Chesterton

 

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Posted by Kentucky Colonel on Sunday, December 17, 2017 5:00 PM

Gamera

She's looking good!!!

Last time I used aftermarket zimmerit I used Gatorgrip glue on it. It looks like and acts like a white glue but will hold metal bits like superglue.

 

 

I forgot about Gartogrip. I have a brand new bottle somewhere I need to dig up. Thanks.

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Posted by Kentucky Colonel on Monday, December 18, 2017 12:05 PM

Making Zimmerit damage on the resin parts of the Atak set were different than tha Atak sheets. Not sure if you can see it in the photos but they will show up with the primer paint once I get finished.

 

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Posted by Kentucky Colonel on Monday, December 18, 2017 12:11 PM

Here's a painting question. What do you all use for that red "German primer" on the tanks? I have several dozen Vallejo, AK and Ming paints but not one primer.  I thought I had a set somewhere but I guess I never did order it. I would hate to have to order one $3 bottle and spend $5 on shipping. Any colors I could use to mix?

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  • From: Willamette Valley, Oregon
Posted by goldhammer on Monday, December 18, 2017 12:52 PM

Might take a look at Tamiya red/brown.  Or get a can of Rustolem red primer, de-cant and AB it.

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Posted by Tojo72 on Tuesday, December 19, 2017 7:32 AM

This one is looking good,nice work on the zimm

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Posted by Kien on Tuesday, December 19, 2017 9:47 AM

Kentucky Colonel

Here's a painting question. What do you all use for that red "German primer" on the tanks? I have several dozen Vallejo, AK and Ming paints but not one primer.  I thought I had a set somewhere but I guess I never did order it. I would hate to have to order one $3 bottle and spend $5 on shipping. Any colors I could use to mix?

 

I just ordered some mission models paints, and with it the Mission Models MMP-013 Red Oxide paint which I will use for the German primer. Other than those paints, I remember seeing a video where someone mixed Tamiya Hull-Red acrylic with some lighter tone (I think white or buff color) to get a red oxide (ish) color, not perfect, but seemed good. 

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Posted by M. Brindos on Tuesday, December 19, 2017 10:59 AM

Vallejo also has a "Hull Red" that should work for your project. It seems a bit bright to me, but I am no expert on red oxide primer. I have a bottle of it and it's definitely not the wrong color.

- Mike Brindos

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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, December 19, 2017 11:44 AM

That's a great job on the mantlet there. 

"Fairy tales do not tell children the dragons exist. Children already know that dragons exist. Fairy tales tell children that dragons can be killed." -G.K. Chesterton

 

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Posted by Kentucky Colonel on Wednesday, December 20, 2017 6:08 PM

I got it primed with Mr. Finishing Surface 1500 Black. First time I've ever used it and so far I like it. It does not seem to fill in the zimmerit which is the reason I bought it. I'm going to start using it more now.

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I DID make a mistake with gluing on the Atak with the CA. As I was putting the zimmerit on the rear hatch it got locked up with the CA before I could finish adjusting it. That is what I've been worring about the whole time using the Atak. I tried to cut the back with a X-acto and redoing it but the Atack broke so I just glued it back on and left it there. This model is not going in any show so I'm not going to worry about it.

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This might be the last post I make for a few days because I'm going to stop work on this and I'm leaving tomorrow to go to the family's farm for Christmas.

 

I hope you all have a Merry Christmas!!!

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, December 21, 2017 7:53 AM

She's coming along great there! I'm not sure I'd worry too much about the crooked zimmerit, I believe it was applied by a guy with a trowel and I'm sure some guy somewhere put some on that wasn't perfectly straight. 

Merry Christmas to you and the family! 

"Fairy tales do not tell children the dragons exist. Children already know that dragons exist. Fairy tales tell children that dragons can be killed." -G.K. Chesterton

 

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Posted by Kentucky Colonel on Tuesday, January 02, 2018 10:58 AM

Sorry I haven't posted much lately. I just got back home a couple days ago. 

Anyway I tried to use AK Metal Burnishing on my Friulmodel tracks but for some reason it did not turn out so good and now I'm painting the tracks.

I will put on the base paint tomorrow.

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Posted by Kentucky Colonel on Wednesday, January 03, 2018 4:31 PM

Well I got the base painting done. I used the Mig Late War Greman Camouflage just to have something different. Now if I can find the time I'm going to finish painting, chipping and weathering it. It has a lot of shine to it and I'm thinkling about spraying it with Testors Dullcote but wonder if I should spray a clear coat over the decals first. 

It might be a few days before I can get back to finish it.

 

By the way, ignore those old vitamin bottles, I use them for storing stuff.

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Posted by Tojo72 on Wednesday, January 03, 2018 6:15 PM

Kentucky Colonel

Sorry I haven't posted much lately. I just got back home a couple days ago. 

Anyway I tried to use AK Metal Burnishing on my Friulmodel tracks but for some reason it did not turn out so good and now I'm painting the tracks.

I will put on the base paint tomorrow.

 

 

The burnishing fluids are tricky to use.You must thoroughly scrub the tracks with acetone,they must be clean of all oil and contamination or the reaction doesn’t work.I have used the fluids and paints,paint is cheaper and looks good too,just sand off the worn areas to expose some metal.

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Thursday, January 04, 2018 8:47 AM

The camo looks great! 

"Fairy tales do not tell children the dragons exist. Children already know that dragons exist. Fairy tales tell children that dragons can be killed." -G.K. Chesterton

 

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Posted by Kentucky Colonel on Sunday, January 14, 2018 10:04 AM

Sorry guys but between the busted pipes and flu I got behind so I decided to just post the pictures once it was finished. I'm not good at keeping a build log because I keep forgetting to post pictures so I'll just wait until I'm finished from now on. I think I over did the damage on the front, I usually do that.

Anyway here it is.

 

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  • From: Rain USA, Vancouver WA
Posted by tigerman on Sunday, January 14, 2018 12:40 PM

Well executed finish there K.C. I like the damage and think it adds to the final product.

   http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/wing_nut_5o/PANZERJAGERGB.jpg

 Eric 

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, January 14, 2018 12:47 PM

Very nicely done KC, i like the look of the extra armour plates.

''I am a Norfolk man, and i glory in being so''

  

On the bench: Tamiya 1/72nd Bf 109E-3

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