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Magach 2C
Posted by RBaer on Wednesday, February 19, 2020 6:41 PM

Another junk box special, end result to be a straight-up M48A2C in IDF sand, Six Day War period, probably with a Sherman cupola and the 90mm gun. Raw materials:

 IMG_8132 by Russel Baer, on Flickr

So far, hull halves together, fenders hacked off, wheels started, and oddly enough, the Dragon rear engine access doors fit (almost). Hmmm......

 IMG_9146 by Russel Baer, on Flickr

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Posted by M. Brindos on Wednesday, February 19, 2020 8:20 PM

[rubbing hands together] excellent.

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Posted by Pawel on Thursday, February 20, 2020 2:08 AM

Hello Russ!

I like your Patton builds, I'll watch this one! Good luck with it and have a ncie day

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

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Posted by HeavyArty on Thursday, February 20, 2020 9:03 AM

This should be fun to watch.  I have a similar box of Patton parts that I plan on turning into a Magach 3 at some point as well.  One thing though.  I believe all Magach 3s had the 105mm L7 barrel.  This was one of the standard Magach 3 upgrades.  The 90mm barrels were only left on Magach 2s, which were straight M48A2/A3s with M1 cupola and 90mm guns.

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Posted by RBaer on Thursday, February 20, 2020 12:03 PM

Gino, you are correct, I may have to do a little re-thinking here. Maybe another kit needs to be cracked open......

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Thursday, February 20, 2020 12:31 PM

Interesting build to watch!

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Posted by M60_ tanker on Thursday, February 20, 2020 12:34 PM

Russ, I have several 105 gun tubes. If you need one, PM me.

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Posted by RBaer on Thursday, February 20, 2020 5:15 PM

M60_ tanker

Russ, I have several 105 gun tubes. If you need one, PM me.

 

Thanks, I have a box full.....   but, I've done something else.

 IMG_9147 by Russel Baer, on Flickr

I went ahead and grafted in the engine covers from the Monogram M48A2C, and that's what I'm gonna make. I wanted to keep the 90mm gun and do one from the 6 Day War, so I'll just have to do another one later.

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Posted by RBaer on Friday, February 21, 2020 1:51 PM

Lots of filling of holes and slots on the hull front, but it's coming along. I'll be using some AM bits and better parts from other kits up here, so all these huge locating holes need to go away....

 IMG_9148 by Russel Baer, on Flickr

And then there's the lower hull. I've added lots of bolts to the swing arm/suspension mounts, mainly for visual interest rather than trying to correct these- I want to finish this model, and some things are better left alone. The motorization holes are plugged, and I've got the final drive housings on (Dragon parts) along with Tamiya drive sprockets, mus holes added by me. I filled a few places on the rear plate, some not since the parts to go there will have weld beads as filler.

 IMG_9149 by Russel Baer, on Flickr

Next session should be the mounting of the suspension. I've normally built these kits with all the swing arms adjusted 2-3mm "up", seems to give the right look. I have lots of Dragon M48 detail bits too, should be fun.

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Posted by M. Brindos on Friday, February 21, 2020 8:26 PM

Heck yeah!

I gotta find time for mine soon!

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, February 24, 2020 11:48 AM

Ohhhhhhh cool!!! 

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Posted by RBaer on Monday, February 24, 2020 11:55 AM

T'anks y'all!

Mike: yup.

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Posted by RBaer on Friday, February 28, 2020 6:58 PM

Swing arms and idler mounts are on, just trying to make them resemble the real thing without spending the rest of the year on this model.

 IMG_9580 by Russel Baer, on Flickr

All I did on the swing arms was round the edges, but I think it works.

 

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Posted by M. Brindos on Saturday, February 29, 2020 4:21 PM

I think it looks just fine, Russ. You have the suspension lowered, right?

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Posted by RBaer on Monday, March 2, 2020 5:03 PM

Thanks Mike, and yes, 2mm in front, a tick less than that in the rear.

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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, March 3, 2020 11:54 AM

No expert here but she looks good! 

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Posted by RBaer on Tuesday, March 3, 2020 8:47 PM

T'anks!

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Posted by RBaer on Thursday, March 5, 2020 8:45 PM

Okay, suspension is finished, lots of sliced hex rod. I used the kit bump stops, couldn't find enough of those nice Dragon parts to do the whole thing until after I finished, then found more than enough. (slap forehead here).

 Russ images 3.4.20 by Russel Baer, on Flickr

And for grins, wheels fitted:

 russ images 3.4.20.2 by Russel Baer, on Flickr

Threre's very little clearance for the top run of the tracks, something I expect Tamiya didn't fret since their tracks are thin, but the DS tracks I'll be using barely fit between the base of the turret ring and the tops of the return rollers.

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, March 6, 2020 8:32 AM

Looks good to me! Not like you'll be able to see that much once you have the tracks and fenders etc on there. 

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Posted by M. Brindos on Friday, March 6, 2020 2:41 PM

Absolutely LOVE all of that detail!

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Posted by RBaer on Monday, March 9, 2020 9:16 AM

Well thanks gents.

I managed to get the main parts of the fenders on last week, and even started the turret, using a Dragon turret and DEF mantlet w/cover, which I modded to resemble the IDF cover using Aves 2-part putty, something I'm using a lot of on this model. I "think" it's a home-brewed cover, my reasoning being the few pics I have of these tanks as received from Germany showing the mantlet covers either torn up or missing. I've also started on the original cupola hatch, removing the head-clearance bump, more Aves putty.....

Offly enough, there's been lots of discussion about the height of the Tamiya turret, (being too "squashed") so I thought I've compare the Dragon turret to one,  and sooprise, sooprise, they're so close as to be the same to the naked eye.

Anyway, so far:

 IMG_9773 by Russel Baer, on Flickr

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, March 9, 2020 11:35 AM

Dunno- looks like a M48 turret to me. But my eyes are squashed and I don't see that well... 

Still she looks good to me, what I can see of her! Black Eye

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Posted by HeavyArty on Monday, March 9, 2020 1:46 PM

Looks like it is coming together well.  It's interesting how well all the pieces from differnt kits fit together. 

On the turret, it depends on who you talk to, but most agree that the Tamiya turret height is dead on correct, as is the Dragon one.  I think the discrepancy comes from the Tamiya hull being too tall (about 3mm) due to them using a display tank w/out an engine to base their measurements on.  With the higher than should be hull, the turret "looks" squashed, but is not.

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Posted by RBaer on Monday, March 9, 2020 3:55 PM

To me too, G. But wait, there's more! A number of years ago, for fun I guess, I added 1.5 mm "shims" between the two halves of a Tamiya turret and blended it all in, even mounted up a turned aluminum 90mm gun and built up the mantlet cover w/ Aves, then stopped. Gotta use it somehow, somewhere.....

Gino, I think you nailed it about why the Tamiya turret looks out of proportion, although the discussions over the years, on various forums,  have been interesting.

'Nuff said, here's fenders:

 IMG_9775 by Russel Baer, on Flickr

 IMG_9776 by Russel Baer, on Flickr

Brackets are in progress, but I think the difficult part is done. Next, a pic of the modified T/C's hatch cover, next to what I started with:

 IMG_9774 by Russel Baer, on Flickr

It's painted to check for flaws, I still need to add the two periscopes at the back, on either side of the hinge, and clean up and do a little detail on the inside.

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Posted by sickdude on Monday, March 9, 2020 7:47 PM
Great progress sir! I'm wanting to build me some M60 soon, so following along with gusto Big Smile.

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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, March 10, 2020 11:44 AM

Again that looks good! 

And cool idea on the turret!! 

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Posted by RBaer on Saturday, March 14, 2020 2:47 PM

T'anks!

More on the hull, need to find out what else was stowed on the right side with the track tools, and scare up a sledge for the left, but the hard stuffare is, on to the turret next.

 IMG_0142 by Russel Baer, on Flickr

 IMG_0143 by Russel Baer, on Flickr

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, March 16, 2020 5:33 PM

Still coming along nicely!

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Posted by RBaer on Monday, March 16, 2020 5:43 PM

Plugging right along, I am. Bench day today, hull finished and in primer:

 IMG_0145 by Russel Baer, on Flickr

And the turret basket done, some Dragon parts, some steel wire and some scrap brass, and I'm happy.

 IMG_0144 by Russel Baer, on Flickr

After those two AFV Club kits, I was not in the mood for a flimsy basket hanging out in the breeze.

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, March 18, 2020 11:27 AM

Again, that's some sharp work. I love the turret basket! 

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