Aftermarket tracks for Tamiya Flakpanzer Mobëlwagen 1/35

I have Fruils for both my Tamya Mobelwagen kits, ATL-27 for one and 28 for the otehr. Either works, they just need to be late war Pz IV tracks.

Thanks Bish!

I wondered about the PzIV compatibility. The Fruils are expensive but I think I will take the plunge. Do you have any general advice about that kit?

much appreciated. 

darren

I am not sure which one you have. I have not built either of mine yet, but if you have the one with the Quad 20mm flak 38, thats a very old kit so some of the detail might not be up to more recent kits. The other one, with the 37mm gun, i would imagine is classic Tamiya from the 90's, can't see you can go far wrong with that.

I have the Quad gun model. Looking forward to getting into it. 

That was produced in 1977, but should still be a decent build. Look forward to seeing it.

Bish

That was produced in 1977,

Which would be about when I bought and built one.  I remember that it almost felt like Tamiya was "cheating" for pretty much just giving us a PzKfz IV and the tried and true Flakvierling, with just the new upper hull and the "moving van" sides.

It was miles ahead of the Monogram 37mm Whirlwind kit I had built a few years earlier.

I want to remember being a little annoyed to find that the Moving Van was only a prototype.  Now, I find I can't remember which one was a "paper" version the quad 20 or the 37mm.  But, I could be remembering that wrongly.

Follow what Bishop says, he's the real expert here on the subject.

Thing is always whether the Friuls fit on the kit sprocket wheels, but that's why forums like armorama exist.

I took a dip in and out of armor for most of the eighties on account of a really good friend I got to know. Then I got married.

Anyhow, I became a pro mechanic on the old Tamiya mtorized kits because I got involved in a 1/35 live time motorized war game including air rifles. And a square mile or so of flat desert.

We didn't have indie link tracks, but I could make a Tamiya motorized T-34 go 25 feet in a straight line and stop on command.

Turn? Shaddup..

I have nothing to say but cheerio about Friuls.

Bill

CapnMac82

 

 

Bish

That was produced in 1977,

 

 

Which would be about when I bought and built one.  I remember that it almost felt like Tamiya was "cheating" for pretty much just giving us a PzKfz IV and the tried and true Flakvierling, with just the new upper hull and the "moving van" sides.

It was miles ahead of the Monogram 37mm Whirlwind kit I had built a few years earlier.

I want to remember being a little annoyed to find that the Moving Van was only a prototype.  Now, I find I can't remember which one was a "paper" version the quad 20 or the 37mm.  But, I could be remembering that wrongly.

 

The Quad 20mm was the one off. The Germans decided that the weight of the 3.7cm shell was more effective than the high rate of fire of the 4 barreled 20mm gun. Even the Wirbelwind was a stop gap until the Ostwind was produced.

GMorrison

Follow what Bishop says, he's the real expert here on the subject.

Thing is always whether the Friuls fit on the kit sprocket wheels, but that's why forums like armorama exist.

I took a dip in and out of armor for most of the eighties on account of a really good friend I got to know. Then I got married.

Anyhow, I became a pro mechanic on the old Tamiya mtorized kits because I got involved in a 1/35 live time motorized war game including air rifles. And a square mile or so of flat desert.

We didn't have indie link tracks, but I could make a Tamiya motorized T-34 go 25 feet in a straight line and stop on command.

Turn? Shaddup..

I have nothing to say but cheerio about Friuls.

 

Bill

 

I used Fruils on one of the other old Tamiya Pz IV kits years ago, and i don't recall any issues with the prockets. But that is the one issue with any set of AM tracks.

I would go with one of these:

http://www.friulmodel.hu/en/atl-27-pz-iii-iv-i31/

http://www.friulmodel.hu/en/atl-28-pz-iii-iv-i32/

You could also look at the possibility of replacing the quad 20's with a more recent detailed offering depending on how Tamiya fits it to the hull.

Also consider replacing the barrels with metal replacements.

https://www.rbmodel.com/picture.php?dir=35B36

James

Thanks for the input everyone. Such a great help. 

Interesting that the “Mobelwagen” was a one-off prototype.  I did not know this.  Mr Tamiya himself stated that they don’t do prototypes or whiffers.

Of course, he has reneged on that position more than once - the Sgt York and Do-335 series come to mind.  The reboxed AMTech Ta-183 too.

Real G

Interesting that the “Mobelwagen” was a one-off prototype.  I did not know this.  Mr Tamiya himself stated that they don’t do prototypes or whiffers.

Of course, he has reneged on that position more than once - the Sgt York and Do-335 series come to mind.  The reboxed AMTech Ta-183 too.

 

Wasn't the Sgt York just a prtotype as well.

Yes the Sgt York was a prototype.  It seemed like a sure thing - an F-16 radar paired with Bofors 40mm cannon, mated to a tried and true M48 chassis.  But it was embroiled in a scandal involving the usual cost overruns, plus the manufacturer was falsifying test performances.

On another tangent, Tamiya based some of their box art on tanks at Bovington.  When I went there, I immediately recognized the Jagdtiger in Panzer Grau with Dunkel Gelb spots!  Wow, they really should get around to repainting that thing!  Bout time.