HAVE I GONE TOO FAR...OR NOT FAR ENOUGH?

Keep in mind that the container pictured is about the size of a coffee can, enough to mud up every model built by every member in a year. I used less than a teaspoon total. I would check to see if you can get it small quantities or locally. Back when I got it, it was most likely from Pearl, since it was pre-internet days.

Wow, certainly is a lot cheeper at the 2nd site!

Thanks AM. Nice job on the search!

QUOTE: Originally posted by shermanfreak QUOTE: Originally posted by ausf Sherm, Surely you mean CHASE fast enough, not run, CHASE. Right? Hmmm .... let me think .... nope ... I meant run.

Ausf, he only means run because because it's a sherman and 30 of his buddies against 1 Tiger.

The mud looks great. Hey, do you mind if I ask how you did that???
Great work, I'll have to look into that Bindex for future mud myself.

Eric

QUOTE: how the hell did you do it? -Hey buddy, lets keep it clean we've got kids looking at this...

My appologies, I am very sorry for that I don't know what I was thinking

Ahhh... Glorious MUD!!! My heart is warmed by this...Your Tiger and my Panther should convoy to the wash rack....eh! Great Job chief!!

Ausf looks real to me well done and to me Armor can never be to dirty so long as the rc still works

Bingo!....The container is a little updated and the lid looks like it's not glued shut as mine was, but that's the stuff.

Allright everyone, did a little homework on this bindex stuff and this is what I got. Looks like somebody has an imitation (or maye this was/is the original stuff?)acrylic "cream" stuff. Check it out.
http://filmus.dunmarsh.com/film/paint.html
Heres another of the same stuff
http://www.dickblick.com/zz006/44i/products.asp?param=0&ig_id=4313
Hey ausf, did it look something like this?

QUOTE: Originally posted by ausf Sherm, Surely you mean CHASE fast enough, not run, CHASE. Right?

Hmmm .... let me think .... nope ... I meant run.

Sherm,
Surely you mean CHASE fast enough, not run, CHASE. Right?

I don't know if anyone is interested....
I was searching through some old art materials, I'm talkin real old, and came across a tub of junk called 'BINDEX'. I was looking for acrylic medium and found this. I can't for the life of me remember why I have it but I do and it's gotta be 15 years old.
It's the consistency of sour cream, a little translucent and smells like artist acrylic paints. The only label description is 'flexible binder'. I'm assuming it's basically art paint minus the pigment and plasticizer (or plus plasticizer, I can't remember which way they work, Gip here's one for you!).
I sprayed a light coat of Future and washed the roadwheels using tube watercolors. If you're not familiar with my posts I try to stay away from anything with organic solvents, period. I have two small kids and have had a serious overexposure to chemicals in the past (that's the reason for the 25 year hiatus from modeling) so it's not worth it for me. I don't know if an oil wash will affect this method.
I took the leftover watery color and eyeballed a 50/50 mix with a scoop of Bindex.
Into that fluid paste went some ground chalk and dry pastel. I stipled it on with a flat brush in small areas (2 or 3 wheels) so it stays wet, and used the tip of an exacto, to flick the material off the end of a few pastel pencils leaving different size and color bits. I then ran the motor to make sure there was no interference and moved on.
The stuff is really tenacious, you can't even scrap it off and it dries clear and matte. I was planning on hitting it with clear coat with the rest of the model but I don't think it's necessary. If I find the acryl medium I'll compare the two if Bindex isn't readily available.

I was thinking about adding more to the inner wheels but maybe I'll hold off based on your comments. I tested a small section of tread first, letting it dry over the drive sprocket to see if it wanted to hold it's shape and it was fine. I guess the big test will be tommorrow to see if it moves after coating the full length. It may be a static model after all.
Thanks

I'm no mud expert but it looks great to me.

Ausf, where are you? C'mon were all at the edge of our seats here!

looks great! nice touch of realism.

Wow, that looks awesome? and it doesn't flake off when you drive it?

Hmmmm...MUD! I like it and I bet Sherm likes it, too.

Why hasn't anyone asked how he did that? You guys are slippin. lol

Mud, is very plentiful, especially after it rains of course, but, with a tiger, more is likely to find its way on since
A: It is big
B: It is a Monster
C: It might sink.

I know no one has said this so far, but how DID you do it??

Ausf, it really looks great to me. Definately not too much, as long as they still work. I've seen pics of real guys with tons more mud on them than that.

Oh, and how did you achieve the look??

Very nicely done ausf .... best call it a day though or your Tiger won't be able to run fast enough.

Pleae do describe the technique that you used.

Ausf, I like it mate. Great that it is still functional. Looks realistic to me!

Better come clean about your technique though, no pun intended....

Matt

Looks good. Just test all the wheels to make sure they still work. I wouldn't carry it any further, except as you said, a dustcoat.
To add to the chorus, I too am curious how you achieved the effect?

QUOTE: how the hell did you do it?

Hey buddy, lets keep it clean we've got kids looking at this, but really what did you do ausf?

Looks excelent, how the hell did you do it?

Looks good. Mud is allways hard to do, but I think you got it.
I know you have books with good reference pics. And I have seen pics in those books of real Tigers with alot more mud than that.
But I think yours is great, just the right amount.
By the way I did start that "book / refference forum" topic in the "suggestions and feedback" forum. Go and have a look.

It looks great, and it still works wow

hi ,looks good and muddy to me so far,

gdarwin.