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Marder 2, old Tamiya

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  • Member since
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  • From: Lisboa, Portugal
Marder 2, old Tamiya
Posted by Pedro_Freitas on Tuesday, January 26, 2021 1:42 PM

So, I had 3 or 4 boxed kits lying around half-started, waiting some 15-20 years to be dealt with.
One of those is an old Tamiya Marder 2 kit but first I had to buy everything new again, brushes, paints, compressor, putty..., since I had quit modelling for a few years.


I thougth this one would be the easiest of the bunch and boy... was I wrong!

Nothing fits, ejector marks everywhere, random holes, not so much detail, all for a kit I'd hope it'd be straight from the box.


Here are a few photos as it is now:

 

 

  • Member since
    September 2004
  • From: Denver
Posted by tankboy51 on Tuesday, January 26, 2021 2:38 PM

The good old Tamiya kit. It was released in 1971.  First tried to convert one from Tamiyas kit their Panzer 2 in 1970, then the kit of the Marder came out.   Was over joyed, I was 20 years old.  

You will see a lot of their ejector pin holes will be covered, the others a simple to sand out.  The work you have done looks good.  It a small part of modeling.  Fun, right.  The newer DML kit is better, but possibly not available any more.  I have built them both, a few times,  you'll like it.    

  • Member since
    July 2004
  • From: Sonora Desert
Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, January 26, 2021 3:29 PM

That's a good old kit! I did one back in the 80's. First armor kit that I used my then new Badger 350 airbrush on. It's still one of my better builds on the shelf, 33 or so years later.

 

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    February 2011
  • From: AZ,USA
Posted by GreySnake on Tuesday, January 26, 2021 4:23 PM
You are making nice progress on the old kit. That was one of my favorite kits in my collection in my younger years (13-14).  

 
  • Member since
    November 2009
  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, January 26, 2021 9:04 PM

Yeah, that's some nice work on that old classic! 

I'd be tempted to just smear some 'mud' under the fenders instead of trying to cover the injection pin marks. 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

  • Member since
    January 2021
  • From: Lisboa, Portugal
Posted by Pedro_Freitas on Wednesday, January 27, 2021 3:09 PM

Thank you!
This kit is fighting me all the way to the end.
Today after priming with black I was going to spray the innards with Vallejo dark yellow and the paint globbed up on the kit like over thinned paint.
And now I'm screwed two fold. This is the eye-dropper airbrush ready Vallejo paint wich I cannot underthin and the stores are closed under lockdown.

Gotta wait for mail order...
Will start the Wespe, next in line.

  • Member since
    July 2004
  • From: Sonora Desert
Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, January 27, 2021 5:37 PM

Pedro_Freitas

Thank you!
This kit is fighting me all the way to the end.
Today after priming with black I was going to spray the innards with Vallejo dark yellow and the paint globbed up on the kit like over thinned paint.
And now I'm screwed two fold. This is the eye-dropper airbrush ready Vallejo paint wich I cannot underthin and the stores are closed under lockdown.

Gotta wait for mail order...
Will start the Wespe, next in line.

 

Thats the paint fighting you, not the kit itself.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

  • Member since
    September 2005
  • From: Groton, CT
Posted by warshipguy on Wednesday, January 27, 2021 6:11 PM

Pedro,

I had the same experience with AK Interactive acrylics.  They really gummed up my brush.  I later found out that I was using an uncompatible thinner for thinning the paint.  I wish that the paint manufacturers would start to include instructions for using their products.

Bill

  • Member since
    July 2004
  • From: Sonora Desert
Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, January 27, 2021 10:58 PM

warshipguy

Pedro,

I had the same experience with AK Interactive acrylics.  They really gummed up my brush.  I later found out that I was using an uncompatible thinner for thinning the paint.  I wish that the paint manufacturers would start to include instructions for using their products.

Bill

 

If your not using the same brand thinner and paint with acrylics, try mixing them in a safe place first and see how they interact together before trying to shoot them thru your airbrush. I have several little metal cups for that purpose.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

  • Member since
    January 2021
  • From: Lisboa, Portugal
Posted by Pedro_Freitas on Thursday, January 28, 2021 8:03 AM

stikpusher

 

Thats the paint fighting you, not the kit itself.

 



I know, I was just mad for the wasted time Big Smile

I didn't thin out the paint at all. Just shoke it well and assumed it was ready for airbrushing. Looked thin and the tin said "Airbrush" on it.
It even smelled really great!!! Ahahahhahaah!

In retrospective I should've open the thing and mix with a brush handle or something.
Oh well, Tamiya paints are on the way now, at least I know how those work.

I have very, very, very old Gunze and Life Color acrylics wich after mixing brush just fine, but those are all RLM LW colors. BTW, this is my current AB, old Badger given by my father, I gess this is as old as the kit itself:

 

Got to buy a decent compressor too. I just started the Wespe kit wile I wait for stuff to arrive.

  • Member since
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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Thursday, January 28, 2021 8:40 AM

All I can say is- good luck!!!! Yes

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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  • From: Lisboa, Portugal
Posted by Pedro_Freitas on Thursday, January 28, 2021 9:30 AM
Thank you!!! :)
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  • From: East Stroudsburg, PA
Posted by TigerII on Thursday, January 28, 2021 9:14 PM

I stopped using factory/company paint thinners. I use alcohol to thin them down to the consistency of skim milk. It works well for me. Good luck, I like the models you're putting together.

Achtung Panzer! Colonel General Heinz Guderian
  • Member since
    January 2021
  • From: Lisboa, Portugal
Posted by Pedro_Freitas on Monday, February 15, 2021 4:32 PM

Hi!

Progress has been slow, I'm learning modeling all over again and trying out old airbrushes I found at my folks home. Head seals were toast from compression and air was passing to the cups and was experiencing lots of paint spater (thinning is still black magic to me too...). "Fixed" them by crafting rubber seals until teflon ones arrive.
No problem, this is all fun stuff. Probably will get a Steenbeck for birthday, soon Big Smile

 

 

  • Member since
    November 2009
  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, February 16, 2021 12:02 PM

Looks like you're making great progress there. Really nice work. 

 

Thinning paint I find to be more an art than a science. It just seems I have to go by 'the feel' of how much thinner is enough than any rule. 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

  • Member since
    August 2020
  • From: Lakes Entrance, Victoria, Australia.
Posted by Dodgy on Tuesday, February 16, 2021 4:22 PM

Hey Pedro. You're doing great work. Even after years of modelling experience painting remains a dark art for me. I also have the same Badger airbrush and there is nothing wrong with it that some skill on my part wouldn't fix!!

I long to live in a world where chickens can cross the road without having their motives questioned

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    February 2011
  • From: AZ,USA
Posted by GreySnake on Saturday, February 20, 2021 2:38 PM
The Marder is looking great.          

 
  • Member since
    January 2021
  • From: Lisboa, Portugal
Posted by Pedro_Freitas on Friday, February 26, 2021 8:05 AM

Thank you all for the kind words!

I've messed up the decals on these two. They will now be hidden in the recently inaugurated Shell of Doom until I have enough patience to sand the top coat and replace the silvered decals.

I must emphasize that it's all good fun, live and learn, just started a 39H Geshutzwagen from Trumpeter (marvelous kit), got a nice little stach of kits for the next months and even started my youngest on a 109 too ❤️ 

Thank you again! 

  • Member since
    December 2002
  • From: Fort Knox
Posted by Rob Gronovius on Friday, February 26, 2021 12:14 PM

Is this the kit with the winking eyed pirate decal? If so, I remember enjoying building the kit way back in the 1980s. Straight out of the box, tan/sand spray from a rattle can, and a pseudo camouflage paint scheme and it sat on a shelf in my room for ages before being tossed in a box in pieces.

Your build looks good!

  • Member since
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  • From: Lisboa, Portugal
Posted by Pedro_Freitas on Saturday, February 27, 2021 8:28 AM
Thanks! Yes, that's the one!
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  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Sunday, February 28, 2021 6:02 PM

This confused me at first, until I saw the photos--here, I stared tout thinking this was the Bundeswehr IFV Marder, which is a mice, simple, and old, kit.

You're making this less-than simple (my 2¢) kit look good.

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    April 2015
Posted by Mopar Madness on Sunday, February 28, 2021 7:21 PM

I remember this kit.  As a kid in the 80's, I loved the winking pirate decal. 

Chad

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