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503 Abteilung Tiger 243 Configuration Question

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503 Abteilung Tiger 243 Configuration Question
Posted by Panzernoob on Friday, July 2, 2021 6:27 PM

Anybody have photos or links to photos which show the rear half of Tiger 243 of the 503 Schwere Abteilung? The books I have show the common front end shot of 243 with the turret facing to the left and one on a train, but I don't have any that clearly show the top down or back.

In lieu of photos, does anybody know if this tank had feifel air filters? What about heat shields and/or the exhaust deflection covers? I'm trying to determine the layout of equipment and such as well as what modifications the tank had.

Barring this, any recommendations for well documented early versions of the tiger which were actually panzer grey in color and more or less fit the Tamiya/Academy early Tiger variants? I don't mind making reasonable modifications. The 502 Tigers probably won't fit the bill as they are much closer to the initial variant models. Also, for the sake of avoiding a contentious debate, let's stick with those that are clearly RAL 7021 and not from units where the RAL 7021 vs Tropical colors is a hot topic.

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Posted by Tojo72 on Saturday, July 3, 2021 7:32 PM

Try David Bryden,a Tiger expert on Armorama

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Saturday, July 3, 2021 8:15 PM
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Posted by KnightTemplar5150 on Sunday, July 4, 2021 12:58 AM

HTH

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Posted by Panzernoob on Sunday, July 4, 2021 7:34 PM

Perfect. Thank you. Do you think this was based off photos or just extrapalated from similar Tigers? 

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Posted by KnightTemplar5150 on Sunday, July 4, 2021 8:10 PM

It's most likely an extrapolation of the small handful of known photos of the tank, photos of other machines in the same unit during the time period, and a touch of SWAG (scientific wild-@$$ guess) from the artist.

It's pretty darned difficult to get wartime walk-around photos of an individual tank, particularly those which focus on the sort of details we modelers obsess over, so SWAG is sort of a standard approach to things.

Most publishers (Osprey, Squadron Signal, etc.) who specialize in unit histories and profiles of various tanks and weapons systems try to be as accurate as possible in what they present, but they essentially work with the same pool of available reference photos as we do. But, they have historians like Steve Zaloga  working with them to get things right. Researchers like Steve and David Bryden are very well-versed in the details and minutiae of these machines - they're very valuable resources to the hobbyist.

 

 

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