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Trumpeter 1/35 Soviet M-30 1938 version - 02343 kit number

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Trumpeter 1/35 Soviet M-30 1938 version - 02343 kit number
Posted by Mrchntmarine on Monday, January 24, 2022 6:55 PM

So this is my 1st attempt at one of these guns.  Looking for some thoughts please.  Im not up on the correct termonology so bear with me.   Im chugging along and was wondering for those that have done canons, etc. if im being realistic in wanting the pistons to move ?  Or, should i just glue in place?

 I guess i was thinking the bottom strut pins (see where ive sanded a bit off of the one shown) would snap into the receiver and hold if i decided to tilt up/down the gun.  I can move the gun up/down now.  BUT, the pins do not hold in place which means i will have to devise a way to get them to stay put.  Thoughts - lot of variables here i know.  

Keep on modeling!

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William

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Posted by HeavyArty on Monday, January 24, 2022 7:16 PM

Looking good so far.

On an artillery piece, they are called equilibrators.  They maintain equilibrium by counteracting the weight of the cannon and cradle so it is easy to raise and lower in elevation. 

It is up to yo if you want it movable.  If the pivot pins won't stay put, you could always cut them off and drill and pin with pieces of heavy wire to secure them.

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Posted by Mrchntmarine on Monday, January 24, 2022 10:13 PM

Ok, didn't think of that. i Wish I'd thought of this before the side brackets were put on!  Aghhhhh!  Going to be tough now without breaking off the mount "U" 's.  

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Posted by Mrchntmarine on Wednesday, January 26, 2022 4:24 PM

HeavyArty

If the pivot pins won't stay put, you could always cut them off and drill and pin with pieces of heavy wire to secure them.

So looking at this again, ive only got 3/16" on the "U" arm height to try and drill through and then through the equilibrator. not sure it would work w/o busting something. then i dont know what strength metal i could find at that size to make it work.

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Posted by HeavyArty on Wednesday, January 26, 2022 4:27 PM

I don't have this specific kit, but have done it to others.  You don't need a big rod, just stronger then the plastic nubs there now.  I have used a thin paperclip before and it worked fine.

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Posted by Mrchntmarine on Wednesday, January 26, 2022 5:41 PM

HeavyArty

I don't have this specific kit, but have done it to others.  You don't need a big rod, just stronger then the plastic nubs there now.  I have used a thin paperclip before and it worked fine.

 

so i remeasured.  the smallest paperclip i have 1/16"  wide and the space on the U, where i have to move back far enough past the current indent is 3/16".  I think its too tight by the time i try and get a bit through it there wont be any plastic left.

 

the indents that are currently there now, where the pins sit in, do not hold them tight -- they only rest there.  So i have to move back some to drill the hole as those indents will not hold the paperclip tight.  everyting is already glued so i cant take it apart to do it w/o really messing it up.  i should have caught this before gluing.  

Keep on modeling!

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William

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, January 27, 2022 11:57 AM

No idea on how to do this but please post the gun when you're done. I'd really like to see her complete.

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Posted by Mrchntmarine on Thursday, January 27, 2022 10:58 PM

Gamera

No idea on how to do this but please post the gun when you're done. I'd really like to see her complete.

You bet.  Maybe if id tried to do this detail before assembly.  But as is, the pieces are too small in my opinion to try without at least some scratchbuild.  current height of bracket 3/16, thin paperclip width 1/16 so  no room there as is....  oh well.

i didnt do any research on this piece - just building out of box and colors arent "true".  But its been a fun kit so far, lots of small pieces that have fit together pretty well so far.  I have most of the big assemblies done, now the tiny tidbits.  I just wanted to do this to get back into the swing of things as ive taken some time off.

The last number of builds have been air brushed and this is my 1st try with Vallejo MC.  Im thinking its turning into a paint bomb compared to my air brushing - and thats not good either - haha....  Of well.  

 

Ill definately post when done.  Tomorrow when i get time ill take some shots of where i am now.  Neat little kit - emphasis - little - for me anyhow.

Keep on modeling!

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Posted by Mrchntmarine on Friday, January 28, 2022 5:12 PM

heres's where i am now.  I quickly took these.  Hope this gives a good idea for now...

 

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Posted by Mrchntmarine on Saturday, February 19, 2022 1:19 PM

Gamera

No idea on how to do this but please post the gun when you're done. I'd really like to see her complete.

 

So im done for now....  I have 1 decal to put on that was not called out in the directions like the ones for the shells - which you really can't see even though i put them on.  Its suppose to go on the L side next to where the shells are loaded - Sorry i dont know the terminology. The shell decals were listed in th directions and this one was not so now its foing to be a tight fit and ill mess with it later.  My goal really for this model was to try and improve on by brush painting - not sure i accomplished that - haha.  But i did get some more practice so alls not lost there.  I used Vallejo Model Color paints and i wasnt too concerned with getting the exact shades correct.  But i was hoping the green would be a little lighter.  But, oh well.  I wanted to have the gun in travel mode, but the 2 legs would not close all the way.  Also had a challenge getting the front armor shield on evenly both sides.  Cant decide if im going to try any washes, etc., so for now its going to be as is - just painted.  The yolk of the travel trailer did not go on as per instructions - but it may have been caused by misplacement of a part by me - cant tell.  That caused some of the support backets on the undeside to not fit as per directions so i had to fudge it there too.   The directions for some of the wheel parts were not exact either.  Some of the parts are tiny and more than once my wife would come in to find me looking on the floor for ones that had gone flyin'.  Im 5 out of 6 for finding them.  The last one being the tiny PE backet for the busket handle that took off when i was making an adjustment. Had to give up on that one and just super glue it.  The bucket seems large for what it is - but maybe not??  Anyhow....

Keep on modeling!

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William

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Posted by keavdog on Saturday, February 19, 2022 1:48 PM

Looks good.  I like these artillery pieces.  I had built a couple ages ago which have long since disappeared but still have a Nebelwerfer, 3.7 & 7.5 cm guns - all German stuff.

They look great in vingettes with a couple figures.

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Posted by PhoenixG on Sunday, February 20, 2022 2:17 AM

Like how it turned out!

I use the Vallejo MC almost exclusively and found I have to thin it a little to get it to lay down well when brushing.

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Sunday, February 20, 2022 6:00 PM

Mrchntmarine
The bucket seems large for what it is - but maybe not??

Has to be beig enough to fit a horse's nose.  And enough water for up to six horses, too.

The use of pneumatic tires (and difering ones, too) is somewhat striking for a horse-drawn equipment. 

I wouldn't sweat the crossbar much.  Most of the draw tack was removed when the hosres were unhitched, and the drawbar is often just left bare.  (Often, not always, using draw-stock varies right around the world.)

Now I wonder if the Red Army called it a "limber" or a "caisson."  In "western" usage, there's not enough ammo storage to be more than a limber--a means of towing the equipment. 

Nice build, though, and not a simple subject--nor a simple kit, either.

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, February 21, 2022 8:40 AM

Looks pretty friggin' awesome to me! And as the captain said it's not a simple kit or subject.

I wouldn't sweat the colour too much. I've always heard the Soviets didn't have great quality control over the paint so it could be much lighter or darker than what was specified.

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Posted by Mrchntmarine on Monday, February 21, 2022 11:24 AM

CapnMac82

 Mrchntmarine

The bucket seems large for what it is - but maybe not??
 

 
Ahh, forgot about the horses...  Yes, makes sense now.  Tks for the comments and for looking.  I enjoyed the build and it was challenging.  Tricky getting the rails around the bench to go together before the glue set up - it was 3 pieces.  I also didnt think when putting the wheels together that the positioning would not be as needed to make it work.  There was a bit of leeway when attaching the wheel pieces that the tire rod fits into and because the axle and hub had 1 flat side, the pieces did not align to be able to put the rod on.  I had to round down the axle a litle to be able to rotate the wheels in order to squeeze in the rod.  Even so, there is the tinyest bit of "bow" to the rod because it also hits the carrier.  Is a good kit though.

Keep on modeling!

All the best,

William

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Posted by Mrchntmarine on Monday, February 21, 2022 11:28 AM

Gamera

Looks pretty friggin' awesome to me! And as the captain said it's not a simple kit or subject.

I wouldn't sweat the colour too much. I've always heard the Soviets didn't have great quality control over the paint so it could be much lighter or darker than what was specified.

 

Tks much.  This hobby is good for me as it gives to me a chance to work on overcoming my OCD...  haha.  I have tried to not let the color stuff bother me as much anymnore and this was a good lesson again.  Good kit and another lesson in studying as much as possible the instructions before hand.  Or at least thinking a little longer before applying the glue.

Keep on modeling!

All the best,

William

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