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SGT York coming from Takom

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  • Member since
    July 2004
  • From: Sonora Desert
Posted by stikpusher on Sunday, September 18, 2022 10:45 PM

Rob Gronovius

The radar from the vehicle will make the vehicle itself a target to "Wild Weasel" style aircraft.

 

 
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  • From: Fort Knox
Posted by Rob Gronovius on Sunday, September 18, 2022 8:29 PM

Pawel

One thing I would like to ask Gino and Rob or others who might know - why is Sgt. York's engine deck so different than in a regular M48A3?

It's always a pleasure to exchange information with you.

I believe the engine deck was changed to accomodate additional power generation for the electronics in the turret as well as reduce the heat signature output as protection from anti-armor missiles fired from aircraft.

The radar from the vehicle will make the vehicle itself a target to "Wild Weasel" style aircraft.

  • Member since
    May 2009
  • From: Poland
Posted by Pawel on Sunday, September 18, 2022 4:06 PM

Hello!

When I was a kid and the Sgt. York was still in the catalogue of Tamiya and later Academy (they copied Tamiya!) I thought the machine looks cool. Of course I couldn't and wouldn't do an intence accuracy check on them.

One thing I would like to ask Gino and Rob or others who might know - why is Sgt. York's engine deck so different than in a regular M48A3?

As for the kit - I think I would buy it if I can scrape up enough cash...

Thanks for reading and have a nice day

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

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  • Member since
    December 2002
  • From: Fort Knox
Posted by Rob Gronovius on Sunday, September 18, 2022 1:55 PM

I've got to echo Gino's sentiments on the Tamiya M247 Sgt York. It's a kit they kind of made to look like a mock up of a York, but accuracy was tossed out of the window. It builds as nicely as their ancient M48A3 with new tracks, and looks like a Sgt York when completed.

Maybe if the vehicle would have been successful, they might have put more effort into it.

I wouldn't bin it; there are probably guys (non-modelers today) out there who built one as a kid and would like one for nostalgic purposes. All these "classic" kits from before accuracy was an issue have value. Even the old clunkers that get repopped by various reboxing companies.

Someone snatched up all those old Renwal kits that Revell released. They didn't hang around on the shelves for very long.

  • Member since
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  • From: Valrico, FL
Posted by HeavyArty on Tuesday, September 13, 2022 11:46 AM

No offense taken.  The Takom kit looks to be light-years better than the old Tamiya dog.

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  • Member since
    March 2007
  • From: Northeast WA State
Posted by armornut on Tuesday, September 13, 2022 8:12 AM

  Thanks Gino, I always trust your knowlege of armor. My Tamyia is akready built and I didn't really think to see how accurate it was. I am strongly considering the Takom, mostly to see hiw they engineered the kit.

     Just to ensure I'm not sounding like a fool my first statement is from respect, not being sarcastic. Your builds Heavy are things of beauty and I can only hope to reach that bar.

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  • From: Valrico, FL
Posted by HeavyArty on Tuesday, September 13, 2022 7:04 AM

armornut
The Tamiya kit is good, I hadn't done any research on it to check accuracy...

The Tamiya kit is horrible.  The basic M48 hull is bad to start with and then they added a misshapen and bad representation of the M247 turret.  They got the rear deck and engine area totally wrong as well. 

Takom's looks to be correct in details and their prior M60 kits have been great.  I would bin the Tamiya kit and get the Takom kit.  

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  • Member since
    November 2009
  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Monday, September 12, 2022 10:25 PM

Interesting thanks for letting us know!!! 

I'm about an hour's drive from Danville, VA so I could get a bunch of photos of their Sgt. York. 

I love seeing the new M48s though to be honest I need another M48 like I need another hole in the head. Got about a half-dozen now- not sure how I collected that many... 

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  • Member since
    October 2004
  • From: Orlando, Florida
Posted by ikar01 on Monday, September 12, 2022 9:52 PM

I remember crawling around the M-48 during the annual Armed Forces Day open house at Picatinny Arsennal when I was growing up.  Even though I normally only build Air Force armor, I may have to pick up the Early M-48 just because of that.  I might have to get a York too, out of curiosity, we'll see.

  • Member since
    April 2003
  • From: USA
Posted by keavdog on Monday, September 12, 2022 9:14 PM

I saw that.  The Modeling news has this mention of 3 kits (including the Sgt York) coming out: https://www.themodellingnews.com/2022/09/we-see-patton-forming-new-art-info-on.html#more

 

Thanks,

John

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  • From: Northeast WA State
Posted by armornut on Monday, September 12, 2022 8:55 PM

   The Tamiya kit is good, I hadn't done any research on it to check accuracy but I'm not a rivet counter either. I might as well pick up the Takom kit just to see if it is better. Have to thin my stash a bit though.

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  • Member since
    November 2004
SGT York coming from Takom
Posted by jhawk on Monday, September 12, 2022 8:40 PM

Tamiya's old Sgt York was the first model I ever airbrushed.  I've been looking to pick me up but just read that Takom is releasing  a Sgt York in November.  Really looking forward to seeing that kit.

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