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What type of crane was used in WW2 to lift a turret from a tank in the field.

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What type of crane was used in WW2 to lift a turret from a tank in the field.
Posted by Stuart06 on Sunday, February 4, 2024 7:20 AM

Thinking of doing a diorama where a disabled T-34/76 is in the field and the turret is off that tank (so I can see the inside of the tank as I don't want to hide the detail).

If the tank was behind the lines getting maintenance, what type of crane would be used to lift the turret off.  I saw this and was wondering if this could be used.

Picture 2 of 2

If it can't be used, was there a platform that can be made to have the turret resting on as the maintenance continues.

 

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Posted by HeavyArty on Sunday, February 4, 2024 7:25 AM

Exactly.

 

 

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Posted by Stuart06 on Sunday, February 4, 2024 4:24 PM

Thanks Heavy....

I was also looking for a picture of a T34/76 (or 85) with the rear plate removed or lowered so that you can get at the full engine as this is how I want to model it.  But I don't know what to do with the top cover with the screen that sits over the top part of the engine.  The top cover seems to be hinged to the rear plate, so if the rear plate is lowered, then the top engine cover must either be removed as well or is still attached to the plate when lowered. 

Can't seem to find a pic of that

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Posted by GMorrison on Sunday, February 4, 2024 5:00 PM

That's an interesting photo. That gantry is stationary unlike the model which is on rollers. So those germans are using another tank to pull the one under repair out from under the turret.

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Posted by Gamera on Sunday, February 4, 2024 8:51 PM

Please post the dio when you're done Stuart. That sounds really cool and I'd really like to see what you do with it. 

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Posted by Stuart06 on Monday, February 5, 2024 8:39 AM

Yes,,,In my head,,it is a cool idea.

When finished,,,,it will probably look like a wrecked birdhouse.Tongue Tied

 

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Monday, February 5, 2024 1:49 PM

GMorrison
So those germans are using another tank to pull the one under repair out from under the turret.

Dunno, does not appear to be any tracks on the one in back--but that may just be the angle of the photo.

And, it's up an incline, like maybe there's a towbar between them.  So, I wonder if it's a turret swap from a non-runner to a runner.

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Posted by Stuart06 on Tuesday, February 6, 2024 8:29 AM

my wonder is how did they lift the turret off the tank.   Is there a power component attached to the crane chains,,,or is it just muscle power....and how many does it take to lift it.

 

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Posted by TigerII on Wednesday, February 7, 2024 3:01 PM

You're right CapnMac, there aren't any tracks on the rear T-34, but the T-34 operated on a Chrystie type suspension with rubber road wheels. Even the old BT-5 & 7 Russian tanks could run without tracks and so could the first T-34s. 

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Posted by TigerII on Wednesday, February 7, 2024 3:09 PM

 A lot of times, these backwoods maintenance areas depended on a lot of muscle power. But with the pulleys and chains it was easier than you might think. Even back lot auto mechanics today use these very same contraptions to remove engines.

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Friday, February 9, 2024 2:09 PM

Stuart06
Is there a power component attached to the crane chains,,,or is it just muscle power.

Hard to see in the photo, but, I'll wager some form of chain hoist was used

There's a sprocket with teeth to engage the lifting chain, this is turned via a second chain whic hoperates via some gears to give some mechanical advantage.

How much advantage is often not much.  There's a ratchet that engages the lifting chain so that it does not slip back while hoisting.

That chain versions are better than the lever versions (modern version shown)

in that you can get a couple of guys on the chain if required.

The thing that really helps the guys in that photo is that the T34/76 had no turret basket (tough on those inside as you spin the turret for tripping) or they would have needed about twice as much lifing height.

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