Russian Kosovo Vehicles

Anonymous

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Russian Kosovo Vehicles

Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, May 1, 2004 10:10 PM

i am building a 1/72 kosovo diorama and i wondering if anyone knew what if any types of vehicles/tanks russian sent there. This includes airforce fuel and amunition carriers.

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, May 1, 2004 11:17 PM

I don't remember seeing any tanks, but there were certainly a number of pictures showing wheeled APCs, probably BTR-70s or BTR-80s. Since motor rifle formations normally have integrated armour units there probably were tanks deployed as well, likely T-72s. I'm not sure what logistic vehicles they would have sent along, but I don't think you can go wrong with some Russian trucks for carrying ammo and fuel around.

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 2, 2004 12:51 AM

thry had a lot of the commie cruisers as we called them . the old looking trucks that looked like opels from the dinosaurs times. i think i have some pics but i'm in iraq and my computer is in germany.

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 2, 2004 1:16 AM

commie cruisers, lol, like this?

also, a little off topic, but is the lav-25 the same base and turret as the canadian coyote?

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 2, 2004 1:46 AM

yes the LAV turret is the base of the coyote turret

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 2, 2004 10:30 PM

i was looking on the internet to see if i could ind anything (no luck) but i did find this:
http://www.warfare.ru/?linkid=2210&catid=316

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, May 8, 2004 8:45 PM

The LAV 25 turret is the start point of the Coyote turret, but that's it.The Coyote is a much more advanced and sophisticated vehicle. I had the opportunity to show a gentleman who worked on the original LAV project my Coyote when I was in Camp Monteith in eastern Kosovo.The only parts he recognized were the main gun and the ammunition stowage bin and the gun controls.The same goes for the hull.

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 9, 2004 12:39 PM

if i wer to get a lav 25 in 1/72 or 1/87 what modifications would i need to make? Hey maybe we could start a lav gb?

i'm guessing no one knows what vehicles russia had in kosovo

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mjohnson

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From: PA

Posted by mjohnson on Tuesday, May 11, 2004 12:01 PM

At the beginning the Russians moved into the airport at Pristina with BTR-70 and BTR-80 along with some T-72. Eventually they removed the tanks and just kept APC around. As for the LOG trucks, just about any type of military cargo or fuel truck was used. The Russians left the country around 2001 or 2002 not possitive on the date.

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 11, 2004 5:29 PM

thanks mjohnson.
here are my plans for my 1/72 kosovo dio:
i am going to get the kit i posted above (the russian airbase trucks) they will be ready to refuel and reload a hind under the watch of a btr 70, as a canadian convoy (leopard, coyote,maybe more) passes down the nearby road. Is there anything wrong with this?

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 11, 2004 5:37 PM

Sounds good, the only problem I can see is with the Canadian convoy you described. I'm 99% sure we didn't send any Leopards over to Kosovo as part of our contribution. The Coyote would be fine, I know we sent those, and I'm pretty sure you could add an APC or two, either M113s or maybe Grizzlys.

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 11, 2004 11:12 PM

Leopards were in kosovo (good thing cause i bought one for my dio last weekend)

check here for more info: http://www.sfu.ca/casr/101-vehleo2a.htm

from the site:
A handful – no more than six – completed examples were sent to Kosovo (right) where their added protection was valued although they saw little service. These uparmoured Leopards were later fitted with the thermal sights and EMES18 fire-control system of the Leopard C2.

does this mean all the leopards in kosovo were up armoured?

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 12:55 AM

Well there you go, I stand corrected. My apologies, thanks for setting me straight. Smile [:)]

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 11:18 AM

I only saw BTR80s when i was in Bosnia a couple of years ago, none of the BTR70s but that was SFOR not KFOR. Might be worth a some more reaserch.

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, May 13, 2004 9:11 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by swerdna

I only saw BTR80s when i was in Bosnia a couple of years ago, none of the BTR70s but that was SFOR not KFOR. Might be worth a some more reaserch.

i was planning on getting a btr-70 cause the btr-80 was not available in 1/72. maybe i cold change the btr-70 into a btr-80.......

so many changes needed, leopard to canadian c1 (or added armour leopard), lav-25 to coyote, and now this.

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, June 7, 2004 7:35 PM

hello this is my first time here, i need information or links about the BTR -80,(1/35) i think this vehicle was on kosovo, some interior pics also, i aprecciate your help guys thanks

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zokissima

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July 2003
From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Posted by zokissima on Tuesday, June 8, 2004 10:04 AM

to the forum Jose.
Links on the BTR-80 are fairly easy to find. Just google it. The Zvesda kit has a bunch of reviews online, so check it out.

Also, I know that AEF makes an interior set that works with the BTR 70 and 80.

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, June 8, 2004 4:54 PM

Hi zokissima, thanks i will check. Do you know if the serbian army had or has the ZVU-23 shilka???, and where i can find some soviet or serbian modern infantry pics??? please if anyone have a link post it please.
thanks.

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zokissima

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Posted by zokissima on Tuesday, June 8, 2004 5:02 PM

I'm not aware of the Serbian army using the Shilka, but if I'm wrong, please someone correct me. Jose, I'm looking for the EXACT same thing you are, and unfortunately, these resources are not that easy to come by, considering the varied nature of the Serbian forces. They had a huge variety of vehicles, some dating back from WWII, both Allied and Axis.

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, June 8, 2004 5:14 PM

According to "jane's tank reconition guide" the zsu-23-4 is used by: afganistan, angola, bulgaria, congo, cuba, egypt, ethiopia, hungary, india, iran, isreal, iraq, jordan, laos, lybia, north korea, nigeria, peru, poland, russia, somalia, syria, vienam, and yemen.

i have the first edition, not the second, mine was made in 1996.

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, June 9, 2004 7:27 PM

Thanks zokissima, yeah its kind of hard to find. Maybe someone can share ideas to improve or build a Balkans War diorama. Also i just find a kit from icm it has 8 soldiers 3 tank crews an 5 modern infantrimen, butttttt the lack off gear it a real problem.
Any idea were i can find 1/35 modern soviet gear?? :(... sorry for bother you guys.

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zokissima

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From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Posted by zokissima on Thursday, June 10, 2004 11:37 AM

Again, even Soviet infantry figures, from any period past WWII are very rare. i haven't seen any, save the ICM figs.

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