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                        aux fuel drums on tiger 1

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                        Armour_freek
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                          April 2004
                        • From: QLD, Australia
                        aux fuel drums on tiger 1
                        Posted by Armour_freek on Sunday, May 2, 2004 5:57 AM
                        Im adding some 44 gallon aux fuel drums to mt tiger 1. My question is how were they fixed to tanks? were the wired on in real life or did the tankers add brackets?. All my reference photos show the drums but i cant see there method of fixing them there. Can anyone help me out?

                        Dave
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 2, 2004 6:13 AM
                        I have a lot of refence on the Tiger I and looked at even more on the web and have yet to have seen any fuel drums attached to one. There are plenty of pictures of refueling in the field, but I can't say I've seen anything like you mention. Could you post some pics? I would love to see this.
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 2, 2004 6:19 AM
                        Thank goodness, I was going nuts. I read this question and started going through my 10 Tiger books, and couldn't find anything about aux fuel drums on the Tiger I.
                        But apparently you have the same problem ausf.
                        Like ausf said; do you have any pics you can post here.
                        Im not saying it didn't happen, Im just saying I can't find any reference about it.

                        BTW this is another reference question, would sure like to see that reference forum soon.
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                        Anonymous
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                        Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 2, 2004 6:29 AM
                        The way they had to rearrange everything as the design changed, ie cutting the hatch hinges, spare track hangers, tow cable storage...I don't see a place on the tank where they could put an fuel can without blocking movement, vision or egress.
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                        Armour_freek
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                          April 2004
                        • From: QLD, Australia
                        Posted by Armour_freek on Sunday, May 2, 2004 7:49 AM
                        I can guarantee that they used these setups, I have two tiger reference books in front of me with photos and info but the photos dont show me how there fixed, i will try and get the pages scanned to show everyone.

                        Dave
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                        Anonymous
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                        Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 2, 2004 7:51 AM
                        Please do. Sounds interesting. Which books are that.
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                        Anonymous
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                        Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 2, 2004 7:57 AM
                        Sign - Ditto [#ditto]
                        Always interested in new twists for a Tiger build. Where did they place them and what campaign are the photos from?
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 2, 2004 7:58 AM
                        AHHH now I see what you are talking about, I have "Tiger I on the eastern front" in front of me, and there is nice picture of a Tiger from schwere panzerabteilung 502 with two 200 litre barrels on the rear. These were only carried for road marches.
                        How they attached them?? I have no idea.
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                        Anonymous
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                        Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 2, 2004 8:00 AM
                        On the deck or the hull in place of the Feifels?
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 2, 2004 8:06 AM
                        On the deck. It looks like they are lying up against the turret and they are not "attached", there are some wooden chocks between the 200 litre barrels and the tow cables to keep them from rolling of.
                        If you have the book, its on page 35 top right corner.
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                        Armour_freek
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                          April 2004
                        • From: QLD, Australia
                        Posted by Armour_freek on Sunday, May 2, 2004 8:20 AM
                        thankyou for verifying that! I was worried I had the only reference book that showed the photos, the book i have is called tankpower 14 published by aj press compiled by tadeusz melleman, p22 and 23 have the photos. There is quite abit of info about the fuel drums though. I seriously doubt any sain tanker would go into battle with drums of fuel on board, i agree that they would only be there for long hauls...cant say i blame em after all, the tiger's fuel consumption was something like 100 miles to 500 gallons of fuel.....
                        shocking isn't it.

                        Dave
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 2, 2004 9:52 AM
                        The Tiger I could hold 540 Litres of fuel, it had an average fuel consumption on roads of 450 Litres per 100 km. With an extra 400 litres of fuel, the Tiger I could cover 211 km on roads, but that would require a lot of maintenence halts.
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 2, 2004 11:27 AM

                        This shows the expected distance/capacitiy, after 25 minutes of refueling. Leaving Magdeburg, you'll make Brandenburg over land, Berlin over roads.
                        Here's my link if you want to see the full size: http://members.fcc.net/ice9/petrol.jpg
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                        Anonymous
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                        Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 2, 2004 1:12 PM
                        I found the picture have a look

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                        Anonymous
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                        Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 2, 2004 1:53 PM
                        Aren't expecting much but a road march like that, no turret traverse whatsoever. That is a great collection of pics, especially the color ones. Once again, thanks.
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                        Anonymous
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                        Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 2, 2004 2:04 PM
                        No turret traverse! You are so right ausf. But then again they proberbly didn't expect any "action" on a road march.
                        But its a great picture, and it would make a great model with the white wash
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                        Anonymous
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                        Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 2, 2004 3:41 PM
                        hmmm am I the only one that can't see the picture anymore ???
                        Too bad it was a great picture.
                        well I can just post a link
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                        spector822002
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                          December 2003
                        • From: Southern Maine
                        Posted by spector822002 on Sunday, May 2, 2004 7:48 PM
                        These things ran on gasoline , nothing like putting a couple of bombs on the exterior of the machine . I doubt that ever happened . deisel fuel is another matter , you can hardly light it with a match !
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                        Anonymous
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                        Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 2, 2004 11:06 PM
                        Spector822002...........Look at the picture in the link above.......It did happen. Like we said earlier, it was for road marches not combat. Arh I'll just post the link again..........OK I see the picture doesn't work........too bad. But trust me Spector it did happen I have several pictures to confirm it.
                        You can find the picture at this site http://www.alanhamby.com/tiger.html in gallery 4
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                        spector822002
                        • Member since
                          December 2003
                        • From: Southern Maine
                        Tamiya,.... answer to the call ! , and release a 1 /16 Panther R/C kit !
                        Posted by spector822002 on Monday, May 3, 2004 3:00 AM
                        Wow ! great site ! Does he have one for Panthers also ? If so whats the link ? The paint section on the tiger site is invaluable , I have it stashed in my computer right now . And BTW I stand corrected ,I just couldn't imagine them adding to big fuel bombs to the tank to allow allied planes to blow them up with machine gun fire ! Just insane . And this was supposedly the master race ?, I think that should recieve a darwin award for stupidity !Black Eye [B)]
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Monday, May 3, 2004 3:09 AM
                        Thanks for the link Monrad I see the drums and seeing is beleving I hadnt heard of this practice beforeAshamed [*^_^*]
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Monday, May 3, 2004 6:36 AM
                        I bet if you find out the unit pictured there, then check it's operational history, it probably ends abruptly....something like 'destroyed in ambush'. What's even better is they are all bunched up too.
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                        wipw
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                          January 2003
                        • From: Utah - USA
                        Posted by wipw on Monday, May 3, 2004 11:31 AM
                        Great link, Thomas. Thanks a bunch. That will help me a whole lot!
                        Bill ========================================================== DML M4A2 Red Army ========================================================== ========================================================== -- There is a fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness". (Author unknown)
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Monday, May 3, 2004 1:15 PM
                        I've got the link from ArmorMaster along with a couple more.
                        the unit in the picture is Schwere Panzerabteilung 502, one of the oldest units and one of the last units to be disbanded. The picture was taken on the Eastern front ( don't know where exactly ) and it was not until mid / late 1943 that the Rusian airforce started to get some airsuperiority.
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