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Indiviual track links?!?!?!?

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  • From: Philippines
Posted by Dwight Ta-ala on Tuesday, May 11, 2004 7:09 PM
Well, the guys got you well covered on the assembly. Happy B-day.

BTW. I paint, weather, and drybush my indies before assembly. Just retouch them after assembly. Anybody does it the same way?

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Posted by tigerman on Tuesday, May 11, 2004 5:02 PM
Welcome stukabomb88. Before I did my first set of indy links, I was scared by the horror stories I've read. I just jumped in and did it. I took my time and they came out very nicely. I too build stretches of links, anywhere from 10-20 and do short and long stretches. I start over the drive sprocket and work my way to the idler and back. I prefer to paint them on the sprue, trim and touch up before I glue them together. Good luck.

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Posted by wipw on Tuesday, May 11, 2004 4:53 PM
Ryan, you must have gotten a much different batch of Tamiay Extra Thin than I did. I really don't even notice the smell. Certainly not any worse than Testor's. It's Tamiya's acrylic paints I don't like the smell of! I wonder if my smeller is just too burnt out from too many years of sinus sprays!! lol
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 11, 2004 4:15 PM
First, Happy B-Day [bday]!! For all indy tracks I use tamiya extra thin cement. It smells awful, but makes the treads nice and bendable for a half hour or so. I cut out the treads, glue about 20 of them together and bend the treak link around the wheels. Works great and the treads won't fall apart, it dries thin but gets sticky when it's allowed to dry a little bit. You can model the tread sag easily with this method too! Looks cool and is easy, the only problem with this method is the smell of the glue, but other than that it's cool!
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  • From: Utah - USA
Posted by wipw on Tuesday, May 11, 2004 12:00 PM
For the wheels, I glue up a short section (enough to fit around the driver or idler wheel) of links with Tamiya Extra Thin cement. Let it set up for about 15 minutes, then wrap it around the wheel and hold it in place with a rubber band. (You could also use a bit of masking tape on each end of the run.) After all the lengths of tracks have set up hard, I glue them together with individual links and let them dry. As the top run is setting up, you will want to press it down on the return wheels to get the proper sag. I used bent pipe cleaners to hold them in place until the cement has cured. You will also want to do this in a top and bottom half so you can get the tracks back off for painting/weathering. Some modelers like to cement the tracks to the tank and paint them on the tank. I prefer to paint and weather them seperately then attach them after the tank is painted.

Also, if you can assemble the tank so that the drivers (and idlers if they have teeth on them) still turn, it makes it a lot easier! You can put a little glue on the drivers from the back after you have the tracks finished, if you want to.

Good luck.

And a belated "Happy Birthday" Happy B-Day [bday]and Welcome to you!!Sign - Welcome [#welcome]
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 11, 2004 11:57 AM
Here's a link for a T34/76 interior:
http://afvinteriors.hobbyvista.com/
Go to the archives.

I'm not very good at indy links myself so I won't give any advice there.
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Posted by stukabomb88 on Tuesday, May 11, 2004 11:43 AM
Thanks guys.

I was also wondering what would be the best way to put the tracks on the wheels. I've seen pictures of one half of the wheel put with the tracks before painting.

Do you know of any sites that would be good refrence for viewing a t-34's interior?
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  • From: West Grove, PA
Posted by wildwilliam on Tuesday, May 11, 2004 11:32 AM
welcome aboard Stukabomb!
indy links are challenging & tedious, but not impossible.
part of the trick is to build the straight sections up in sections of 5 or so links at a time.
you can then join these to make longer runs.
you can make a simple jig by taping a ruler down to a piece of glass
or some other flat surface (not the kitchen table!) and using that to align one side
to keep the runs straight.
you could also put a straight edge on the other side too, if you want.

if you search the forum for "individual links" or "indy links" or maybe even just links,
you will find helpful threads like this:
http://www.finescale.com/fsm/community/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=17724
http://www.finescale.com/fsm/community/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=18753
http://www.finescale.com/fsm/community/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=15654

the topic comes up frequently.

glad you have joined us, you will find plenty of experienced modelers willing to help.


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  • From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Posted by zokissima on Tuesday, May 11, 2004 11:29 AM
I suggest making a jig, which is basically something you can use to align the pieces while you glue them. Glue a few links at a time, to make sections, then combine smaller sections together to make larger ones. While still workable, while the glue is drying, take a section and form it around the drive, front, and any other wheels you will need.

Try using the search for indy links, or individual links on this forum, as this question has been discussed many times.

Here are a few preview links of the two kits:
T-34
http://www.perthmilitarymodelling.com/reviews/vehicles/dragon/dr6092.htm

Kettenkrad
http://www.perthmilitarymodelling.com/reviews/vehicles/dragon/dr6128.htm

Good luck, and let us know how the Dragon kit goes, it's supposed to be great. Have fun Smile [:)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 11, 2004 11:29 AM
Happy belated birthday Smile [:)]

As for the individual link tracks....gotta love them Wink [;)]

Seriously though, when I'm dealing with them I find it easiest to put them together in short lengths, say 4 or 5 links at a time, then paint the lengths before putting them on the model. Once they are are painted and the model is ready to have the tracks put on you can start attaching the lengths of track to the model. I find that working with the short lengths of track is much easier than working with the individual links, there's more to hang on to!

I've never attempted either of the model you have so I don't know if there are any tricks specific to those kits, but I'm sure someone else around here has.
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  • From: Alberta, Canada
Indiviual track links?!?!?!?
Posted by stukabomb88 on Tuesday, May 11, 2004 11:23 AM
On May 5th I celebrated my 17th birthday. I am new at models but really love the hobby. My mom bought me the new Dragon t-34 kit. I was surprized to find inside it that the track peices were individually linked! I've never built tracks like this before and I would like some tips. My Grandparents also bought me the Dragon Kettenkrad kit as well, with individual tracks (I'm in over my head).

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