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Re: T-55A Tamiya: Iraqi paint scheme

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    November 2005
Posted by Anonymous on Friday, April 4, 2003 3:27 AM
wow theolan! What great information! A lot of people forget how old these tanks really are and that spare parts have long gone by the wayside. Tank crews are notorius for "field" repairs and you've given a great picture of some combat type examples....Thanks
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  • From: USA
Posted by Theolan on Thursday, April 3, 2003 11:48 PM
SInce I am kinda new to the modeling hobby, let me just add a few observations from real life experiences with iraqi armor.

Having served during Desert Shield/Desert Storm, and Operation Southern Watch, I have had the "priviledge" to see these seriously overmatched armor pieces up close and personal.

Minus the multitude of bullet holes from the A-10 Warthogs, the charred and burn marks, and the mounds of rust on even the abandoned tanks, they are a sandy, desert brown color. Some of the areas on the Iraqi armor that I saw up close had some hastily patched and repainted portions. They used a light grey primer underneath. Some pieces of the armor, specifically the BMPs had various battle adournments, much like American Aircraft (i.e. planes shot down types of things). The interiors of the Iraqi armor was a light greyish green color.

Keep in mind, it's important to realize, in battle, most divisions will scrounge what ever they can get their hands on to make expedient repairs. I saw a tank that used a big rig grill to replace ventilation grates.

You also need to decide on what division you are building, as the "basic army" tanks are less updated, more dilapedated, and certainly less impressive looking than say a Republican Guard tank, that is better taken care of, has newer parts, and is generally more resilent than its cheaper brother cast offs.

Most generally, my experience with Iraqi armor has been of the Regular Army Type, less maintained, and more of a mish mash of scrounged parts. Again I reference a tank that used chopped up crowbar pieces for pins on a track.

The BMPs were actually in better shape than the tanks, and looked more resilent on the battlefield unfortunately....

I know this is probably more than what you wanted to know, but if you are building a diorama, and wanted a "no holds barred" evaluation, it may be of interest....
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    November 2005
Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, April 3, 2003 8:17 PM
I've noticed that most of the Iraqi T-55's in the news coverage seem to be a very dark shade of BLACK with occasional missing turrets. Big Smile [:D] Sorry, couldn't resist.
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  • From: Racing capital of the world- Indy
Posted by kaleu on Thursday, April 3, 2003 12:07 PM
I've seen Iraqi tanks painted two ways: solid desert tan, or desert tan with green strips or splotches. The base coat would probably be Russian green, although they did get a number of Chinese tanks such as the T-59/T-69/T-69II. I have noticed that most of the Iraqi tanks shown on the current news reports don't have the mount for the DSHK and are in relatively good condition.

Try these links for help with Russian/Iraqi armor:
http://www.sura.com.ru/~tam/
http://www.kithobbyist.com/AFVInteriors/fullmetal/fullmet.html
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/garden.maquette/materielsmodernes.htm
www.armorama.com
www.missing-lynx.com

Some books you should look for are:
Military Ordnance Special #15 - Iraqi tanks and AFV's ( OOP, I believe, but still found on Ebay and at model shows)
Grenadier Publishing - T-72 Battlegroup
Concord Publishing - T-54/T-55/T-62
New Vanguard # 6 - T-72 Main Battle tank

There are more books and websites out there, but this is all I can remember off the top of my head. If you need any more help, please let me know.
Erik "Don't fruit the beer." Newest model buys: More than I care to think about. It's time for a support group.
  • Member since
    November 2005
Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, April 3, 2003 10:36 AM
Hello, I am in the process of building a T-55A by Tamiya.I plan to depict a Iraqi version, not Russian. My question to anyone who could help me is: What color was used for the Iraqi tank? was there any camo involved? and for paint chips etc, what is the basic undercoat color? and last question, as I will have to hand paint any numbers, or unit numbers, is there any websites with pictures of these Iraqi tanks? I appreciate anyones help with my questions. THank You, MTRA1 Henderson, NV mtrasouth@msn.com
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