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Help me with my Hanomag!
Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 10:37 AM
Okay, I'm on here for the first time, and I'm looking for some help. How can I get the Tamiya Hanomag to become a SdKfz. 251/4 (Ammo Carrier)? Thanks for your time. Wink [;)]
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Posted by wildwilliam on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 2:56 PM
MEMB,
welcome to the forum!
i will have to wait until i get home to check my Sdkfz 251 book and see what the differences are.
but i should have something tonight or tomorrow.
providing the book covers that variant in some detail.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 3:46 PM
Speaking just from what I remember having read and heard there wasn't much difference. Basically they would stack up the ammo on the floor. Might remove the rear bench seats. I asked about the same question a while back about a 251 AT gun tow rig and how they would load the ammo, most everyone agreed that the cases of shells would be just stacked in the back.

I am have no doubt that Wildwilliam will turn up something... You are in good hands in this community.

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Posted by tigerman on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 5:03 PM
Sign - Welcome [#welcome] to the forums MEBM. I can't find any information on how they stored it, but found out it towed the 105 mm FH and later the pak 38 and Pak40. It carried the gun's crew and a small ammount of ammo.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 5:08 PM
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 7:34 PM
Welcome to the forums Mebm
you might find this site usefull http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Pit/3515/251/index.htm#m4
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Posted by philp on Thursday, May 27, 2004 1:19 AM
MEBM,
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Here is some info I found on the web. My Squadron book is buried so can't check that.

Several 251's are photographed carrying ammunition. There is no official record on it after 1943. Tank-units on the eastern front are the most seen user. For easier loading and handling seats were probably removed.
Weight 8.75 tons / Crew : 7 / Armament One 7.92mm MG34 with 1,100 rounds of ammo. Ammunition carrier and tractor for the 75mm lelG18.This vehicle was replaced by the Sd Kfz 251/9 with its self-propelled 75mm gun in 1942.120 rounds of ammunition were carried.

http://www.nwha.org/news_4Q2000/news_page4.html
http://pmms.webace.com.au/reviews/books/groundpower/gp251.htm
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, May 27, 2004 2:16 AM
A book that I know some of the guys on the forum have, called Encyclopedia of German armour or something, has lots of picks of the innards of many 250/251 variations. Perhaps that might show you what you want.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, May 27, 2004 2:27 AM
And welcome along, too!
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Posted by wildwilliam on Thursday, May 27, 2004 6:55 AM
MEBM,
i am a loser and forgot to check.
i will write myself a note for tonight.
in the meantime, please have a look at:
http://afvinteriors.hobbyvista.com/251/251a.html
and please note the link to a second page at the bottom!
or click here: http://afvinteriors.hobbyvista.com/251/251b.html

this page should also lead to good info:
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Pit/3515/251/index.htm

and way down toward the bottm of this page there are a number of links for pages on the 251 family
EDIT - Posted wrong link previously!
http://www.linux-penguin.org/achtungpanzer/half.htm
(sometimes they exceed their bandwidth, and you have to wait till later)

happy hunting!
i will TRY to get the book out tonight.
sorry bout that.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, May 27, 2004 11:08 AM
The New vangaurd book is no help. All I can find out for sure is that they existed, based on Ausf. A, B, C, and D vehicles. Production appears to have ended in 1943 but the existing ones were used through the end of the war.
The large water tank over the transmission in the Tamiya kit was only used in the 251/8 ambulance.
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Posted by wipw on Thursday, May 27, 2004 3:56 PM
Sorry, MEMB, no info for you, but I wanted to jump in and wish you a big Sign - Welcome [#welcome]Sign - Welcome [#welcome] to the forum!
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, May 28, 2004 11:42 AM
Wow, thanks for all your help guys! This will help a lot! Say, could you guys also tell me what Panzer Divisions had Hanomags? Thanks for your time. Wink [;)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, May 28, 2004 7:36 PM
All of them, transport for the Panzergrenadiers (armoured infantry). The SS usually had more that the Heer though.
Infantry divisions (Mot) also had them.
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Posted by wildwilliam on Monday, May 31, 2004 5:53 PM
MEMB,
no help from my book, which turns out to be abt the 250/1 thru 250/12,
w/ no data on the 251 family.
i am an idjit! Clown [:o)]
and a slow moving one at that.

i hope the links were of some use, at least.
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