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panther F colors
Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, June 5, 2004 10:10 AM
does anybody know what colors the German's used for their Panther F model and what theater's they were mainly used? i just bought Dragon's 1/35 and i don't know which color to use. i am leaning toward the tamiya german grey but i want to be sure it is accurate. thanks!!
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, June 5, 2004 10:32 AM
The Panther F was a late war vehicle (so late it may not have seen combat) so it would be 3 tone - dark yellow (dunklegelb), dark green (dunklegraun), and red brown (rotbraun), ambush using the same colors or even oxide red primer.
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Posted by Foster7155 on Saturday, June 5, 2004 11:07 AM
According to the "Encyclopedia of German Tanks of WWII":

"Daimler-Benz was given the task of developing the 'Schmal' (narrow) Panther turret. This design was to have a small frontal area, thicker armour, to prevent penetration under hte gun mantlet, and to have the same size turret ring as previous Panther turrets. It was to be mounted on the Ausf F and Panther II. Only a prototype of the turret was completed, and the Ausf F series was never produced."

Therefore I would say, paint them any way you would like...they fall into the "what-if" category of vehicles.

Sorry...
Robert

Robert Foster

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, June 5, 2004 11:39 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by claymore68

The Panther F was a late war vehicle (so late it may not have seen combat) so it would be 3 tone - dark yellow (dunklegelb), dark green (dunklegraun), and red brown (rotbraun), ambush using the same colors or even oxide red primer.



I would agree with Claymore, and you can also go with RedOxide and Dark Green and Grey, as many colors were hard to get at the end the Germans painted tanks in whatever was available.... Many times tanks were sent to the front in just the primer coat and painted in the field...Tongue [:P]
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Posted by spector822002 on Saturday, June 5, 2004 12:06 PM
Panther F was really a prototype , I don't believe any saw combat , they were very late in the game , but you couldn't really go wrong with a hard edge late war camo scheme, maybe an ambush scheme as well . If you want to be very genuine I would say red oxide primer color as that is probably how the allies found them in the factory . Good luck
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Posted by tigerman on Saturday, June 5, 2004 3:16 PM
I believe the Panther F never made it into combat. Either a red-oxide or Dark Green base with probably a hard edged camo would be most appropriate. I always liked the ambush scheme myself.

   http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/wing_nut_5o/PANZERJAGERGB.jpg

 Eric 

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, June 5, 2004 3:43 PM
Sign - Ditto [#ditto] to the above
if you look at Kennethc's sig


thats a great exaple of a late war cammo

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, June 5, 2004 6:10 PM
From The Encyclopedia of German Tanks of WWII by Peter Chamberlain and Hilary Doyle: "The manufacturer is Daimler-Benz. The Ausf F did not go into series production. Reports indicate that 8 hulls were produced by Daimler-Benz in 1945, but only protoype turrets had been completed at this time".

HTH
Glenn
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, June 8, 2004 3:05 PM
i don't own an airbrush and i know one is not needed for the late camo pattern illustrated here but i would a winter camo effect or a dark yellow solid be OK? i have never done camo patterns before so i do not feel confident doing this one yet. thanks.
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Posted by spector822002 on Tuesday, June 8, 2004 4:52 PM
I would go red oxide myself as that is the undercoat that was applied to late war stuff its basically just a primer redbrown color you get at the auto shop, although camo can be done well with a brush especially the hard edge late war like kenneths ( his was done with an airbrush using silly putty of all things for the mask , apparently it works well and from the looks of kenneths Ausf G I have to agree ) Give the camo a try , it really is not that hard to do !
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 10, 2004 10:48 AM
hey guys,
thanks for all of your help. i just finished an ambush camo patern on my panther f last night and it looks awesome. i left the base as a dunklegelb and used the olivgrun and the brown color (its a long german name but the brown color they used on their tanks). i actually followd the pattern outline that is on the directions and it worked out much better than expected. i will try to post pics. i have another question though. when i dry brush, should i use lighter shades of each repective color or just use a lighter shade of the dunklegelb as i thought this might be more realistic. i figured as the armor weathers, the base coat would stick through before the actual steel. futhermore, would it make sense to drybrush a few places that would get the most wear with a dull steel color (like a gunmetal)? i just completed a wash with burnt umber that also makes the armor come alive so now it is on to drybrushing. just seeing what you all think.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 10, 2004 10:53 AM
Sounds Great! I am looking forward to seeing some pictures of your Panther F. Good luck with the weathering...

EDIT You should try the hard edge with silly putty it works VERY well. You can do the same with spray cans though I did use an airbrush...
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 10, 2004 11:01 AM
kennethc,
i actually used just a fine tip paint brush. it was tedious work and i have to do about 3 coats for the green and brown but the final result is well worth it. i am quite new to "serious" modeling so this is only my second fully painted, weathered, etc. model. i hope to get an airbrush for my birthday (june 20) and was wondering if anyone had any suggestions. anyway, i see you are a panther fan as they are really starting to grow on me. i finished a panzer IV, F-1 and that was an awesome build but the panther's are more fun to build. german armor in general is my interest but the panther's seem to my model of choice right now. i am going to finish a tiger-1 i currently have and then it is on the more panthers. which one is your favorite to build?
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 10, 2004 11:12 AM
Oh yeah I am a Panther fan alright. I think they are about the sexiest looking tank of all time. They just have sleek lines and brutish look.

I'll tell you if your looking for a good goof proof airbrush you can't go wrong with a single action Paache H. It all metal and easy to use and clean. With proper thinning and pressure you can paint very small lines with it. The camo in my other thread about the damaged Jagdpanzer was painted with an H and those lines are not near as thin as you can get with it. Double action brushes are nice but I just have not had the need for one thus far. The single action H retail for about 40 bucks. If you can spring for a compressor do so. It will make life much easier and cheaper in the not so long run with these German schemes... The paint job on the Jagdpanzer took about 2 hours of solid spraying to lay down the green only, building it up slowly to avoid overspray.

Good luck buddy...
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