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Which Stug was that?

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Which Stug was that?
Posted by lolok on Thursday, June 24, 2004 7:28 AM
Naturally,living in the city as I do.I watched the CNN special on the Warsaw uprising. My eye was caught by a photograph of a captured Stug with the main gun offset to one side? It was near a barricade built by the Polish fighters. I have a 1/35th Vac Form barricade sitting around somewhere and a very old set of french resistance fighters made by I can't remember who.
A diorama might be a nice idea if you can tell me what Stug it was and if it is available from anyone? Thanks in advance.
Jim.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 24, 2004 8:29 AM
06/24/2004

lolok,

Could it have been a Hertzer??? Did it have sloped armor?? If not I don't have any other guesses...

Later,

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 24, 2004 10:27 AM
Well, apart from the Hetzer, it could have been an early Sturmpanzer IV, or possibly a captured SU-85.
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Posted by lolok on Thursday, June 24, 2004 10:52 AM
It did indeed have sloping armor and no conventional turret.
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Posted by wildwilliam on Thursday, June 24, 2004 10:57 AM
did it look like any of these?
http://www.achtungpanzer.com/hetzer.htm
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Posted by lolok on Thursday, June 24, 2004 11:34 AM
Thanks guys,thats the fella. The 38(T) Hertzer. Now you will all tell me that a kit is not available in 1/35th. It usually happens to me. They did also capture a Panther but the Hertzer looked more interesting,especially after they painted Polish Eagles and mottos all over the Glasis plate.
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Posted by wildwilliam on Thursday, June 24, 2004 11:55 AM
looks like Dragon/DML kits one
1/35 dr6060 Hetzer w/ Pak39 Command Version
not sure if that is the one you are after.
the only other choice i saw was ADV/Azimut.
very expensive.

only one 'R' it Hetzer, if you are searching.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 24, 2004 1:48 PM
Dragons done four Hetzers
an early one
a Late one and a Flame thrower version in the same box
and the comand version
Italeri do the late version too
ive built the Dragon early and its a nice kit
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 24, 2004 3:59 PM
Hey!!!

I was right!!! Where's my Cookie!!!! :-)

Good Luck,

Hibrass

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Posted by tigerman on Thursday, June 24, 2004 5:13 PM
Give the guy a cigar! I've built the Italeri kit, it's okay. The DML one looks better, but comes with the love them or hate them indy tracks. I believe the wheels are incorrect on both kits. I'm hoping Tamiya puts one out someday, especially since they have the two Marders which the Hetzer is based on.

   http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/wing_nut_5o/PANZERJAGERGB.jpg

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Posted by wipw on Thursday, June 24, 2004 5:17 PM
Wait a minute, Eric. Since the Marders were based on the 38t, shouldn't it be that the Hetzer was based on the 38t, too?? (At least I think that's what I read somewhere! Maybe I'm up in the night!)

LOL

Just jerking your chain!!
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Posted by lolok on Friday, June 25, 2004 3:53 AM
I looked on dragons site but could not find it. Could it be deleted? I'll have a look at Italeri.
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Posted by wildwilliam on Friday, June 25, 2004 6:39 AM
Jim,
the one i saw was on www.greatmodels.com
the reason i said they make one (and not 4 as Jon said)
is because greatmodels only offers one for sale.
the others are either OOP, or just not sold there.
the first seems more likely.
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Posted by lolok on Friday, June 25, 2004 12:58 PM
Thanks for the great help guys. I looked on the site and while same body the barrel is much smaller. The CNN one had a gun very like the Jagdpanther but as I said offset to one side of the glasis plate.
It looks like once again I am stuffed.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, June 25, 2004 1:22 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by wipw

Wait a minute, Eric. Since the Marders were based on the 38t, shouldn't it be that the Hetzer was based on the 38t, too?? (At least I think that's what I read somewhere! Maybe I'm up in the night!)
LOL
Just jerking your chain!!


hey, i actually know the answer 2 this one !
the Hetzer was indeed based on the Czech 38t chassis,
if u need a quick ID, the Hetzer was sloped down the backside at a constant angle
(kinda 'hatchback' looking) while the stug & jagdpanther have flat rear deck sections
(more like a pickup truck in profile), not 2 mention different roadwheel arrangements...
& the barrel of the hetzer is offset 2 one side, there mite also b the 'saukopf' (sow's head, because that's what it looks like) mantlet on ur vehicle...
wow, if i'm rite, i've actually learned something in the past year, LOL !
if i'm wrong.... never mind....Clown [:o)]

here's a couple of pix of a hetzer i built awhile back, fujimi 1/76 kit...





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Posted by lolok on Friday, June 25, 2004 1:34 PM
Sorry guys but Frostygirl gets the 50c cigar. That is exactly the stug as featured on CNN. Now the job of finding one in 1/35th!!!!
Jim Ryan Ex-Pat Limey in warsaw.Poland. " MENE,MENE,TEKEL U PHARSIN"
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, June 25, 2004 1:57 PM
lolok:
see Captain Caveman's post. above...
what u r looking 4 is a 1/35 Hetzer, not StuG...
Dragon/DML makes one ...
thanx 4 the (virtual) cigar, no smoking 4 me, tho'... Wink [;)]

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, June 25, 2004 7:16 PM
heres some kits from Ebay (sorry if im wrong for posting them, none of them are mine)
the early version

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2588&item=5904764293&rd=1&ssPageName=WD2V
the comand version

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2588&item=5905736296&rd=1&ssPageName=WD2V
the Late/ flame thrower version

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2588&item=3148217792&rd=1&ssPageName=WD1V

the one on the program would have been a Hetzer that was made in Switzerland after the war
it was called a G13 only the G13s had big muzzel brakes
heres a good site for Hetzer info
http://www.pzfahrer.net/

and heres some photos of my early Hetzer



it needs some weathering
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