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Zimmerit, I chickened out!
Posted by wipw on Thursday, June 24, 2004 4:51 PM
I did it! I admit it. I chickened out on doing zimmerit on my Dragon King Porsche. I ordered an Atak zimmerit set for it. (Even comes with a new turret!) I'll be interested to see how good it is. I bought one for my 1/72 Tiger I a month or so ago and was pretty impressed with it, but haven't tried it for fit, yet. Will probably be in on Monday.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 24, 2004 4:55 PM
Chicken.......naaaaah. Its one of those thing where if you go hummmm take my chances on this 45$$ kit or say forget it and try another time. BUT!!! However it does take alittle practice, I used old A/C and cars and the Panther A from tamiya.
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Posted by wipw on Thursday, June 24, 2004 4:58 PM
I did both my Tiger I and my Panter A in zimm, so it's not like I've never done it before. Mostly wanted to try something different. Probably wish I hadn't, but what the heck! It's only one more model I could have bought, right??
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Posted by tigerman on Thursday, June 24, 2004 5:02 PM
I was going to say you were probably burned out after your Panther. Zimming braille? Now that would be a challenge.

   http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/wing_nut_5o/PANZERJAGERGB.jpg

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Posted by Spamicus on Thursday, June 24, 2004 5:05 PM
I've got everything to do the zim thing, but I've been eye balling Cavilier sets for my Porsche turret. We'll see, much like you, I've done zim before, but after seeing Moses' job on his, I'm a little intimidated!

Steve

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Posted by wipw on Thursday, June 24, 2004 5:11 PM
Gotcha' Steve. I felt the same way. Mine didn't turn out nearly as clean as Moses' did. His was phenominal! I'd like to see more of his work! Hope he gets back on soon. I've never tried Caviler, but have heard lots of good about it. The Atak set has a new turret, mantlet, sides, hull plates. Looks like just about everything but the deck! Number is atk3502 at GM if you want to check it out.
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Posted by Daveash on Thursday, June 24, 2004 7:01 PM
As they say, practice makes perfect.
Here are some pics of my first attempt at applying zimm. I used milliput, rolled out in powder, smoothed on with a brush and finger, then textured with a bit of styrene in an exacto handle. The pics are in a very high resolution so mistakes can be seen, but I did not find this method too difficult to achieve a result. From a distance it looks OK and when painted hopefully will produce the desired effect.
I first tried it on the front and back of the hull, then the sides and then the turret. As I progressed I corrected mistakes by trial and error.
I hope that this example will help others with this apparently daunting task.









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Posted by buff on Thursday, June 24, 2004 7:10 PM
I've got a Panther G in my stash that I want to zim. Lots of practice on some sheet styrene and an old kit before hand. It looks daunting, but I really want to give it a try. It's a skill I really want to try to develop. There are too many interesting looking kits out there that I wouldn't be able to do accurately without zimmerit, and I wouldn't want to buy AM kits all the time.

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 24, 2004 8:10 PM
Bill,
You see what happens when you post in the aircraft forum? You see? You've lost your nerve! That's what happens!
No way, not me, uh uh. I'll build this Me109 but I'm staying put.
They got to you, man! There using some AC voodoo. They'll stick a pin in their 'wipw doll' and you'll buy another kit. Soon you'll start getting AM cockpits, and flat wheels and landing gear and....
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 24, 2004 9:26 PM
Bill, are you going to change your tag from WIPW to WIMP now? Big Smile [:D] Remember those words by the famous Modeller and part time Poet and Author, Alfred Lord Tennyson:
"It is better to have zimmed and lost, than to never have zimmed at all"

Dave, not a bad attempt at all. As you say, you get better with practice. One tip, if you use masking tape over areas you don't want putty on just yet, it makes life easier to clean up later.

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Posted by tigerman on Thursday, June 24, 2004 10:33 PM
Dave, you did a way better job than I did on the homemade zim. Better than my PE zim turned out. No fooling.

   http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/wing_nut_5o/PANZERJAGERGB.jpg

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Posted by fightnjoe on Thursday, June 24, 2004 11:24 PM
hmmm..........................bill you have given me something to think about. interesting.

dave well done on the zimmerit. it looks really good.

joe

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Posted by renarts on Thursday, June 24, 2004 11:30 PM
Bill,
Grab a sheet of styrene and practice. I'm sure once you get into a rhythim it'll come to you. Just practice. Whats styrene cost per sheet? Pretty small compared to the pay off of doing a good job on the model once you've practiced a bit and built up your confidence.

Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 24, 2004 11:35 PM
Wipw... *whispers* (airplane airplane airplane)
Ausf It always starts with a 109 my friend...always.

I like that zimmerit look. Tigers are cool. I finally know what a porche tank is...the turret type right.

Oh Ausf Sqaudron has lots of Eduard sets for the 109, and verlinden has some cool resin...just thought you'd like to know Wink [;)]

Wipw..... (airplane)


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Posted by fightnjoe on Friday, June 25, 2004 1:08 AM
well after really taking a good look at zimmerit and how to apply it. i am going to order a backup, i am ordering the eduards zimmerit set for the dragon porsche king tiger.

oh yeah sorry ausf, with mine i went with the eduards pe set. really did a great job of spicing up the cockpit.

joe

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, June 25, 2004 7:06 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by woodbeck3

Oh Ausf Sqaudron has lots of Eduard sets for the 109, and verlinden has some cool resin...just thought you'd like to know Wink [;)]




Like this?



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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, June 25, 2004 7:30 AM
Common Bill, .... Don't be such a wuss.... The best lessons learned are those that end up in the spare parts pile....Big Smile [:D]...

Nah I feel you. I am about to dive into zimmerit project myself for the JP IV. Wish me luck!

Show us some pics when your done....
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Posted by Build22 on Friday, June 25, 2004 7:45 AM

Bill,

Don't be intimidated by these zim-terrorists. Gotta look at it as time allocation or out-sourcing.

You are the Ferdinand Porsche of this project and Hitler wants his tank ! - gotta get it done


Cavalier comes in flexible sheets. I have a couple sets for some up coming projects. You apply it like a skin. Sounds like Atak is actual pieces ? Is that correct ?

Jim [IMG]
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, June 25, 2004 2:13 PM
Ausf you floor me *wiping tears from my eyes from laughing*, but I didnt see that verlindin set in there...chickenEvil [}:)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, June 25, 2004 2:29 PM
i get so afraid of zimmerit, i just pray there an am part like the ones i order from cavalier, they do pretty good work, i just spend the extra money. i know im a wuss
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Posted by wipw on Friday, June 25, 2004 3:48 PM
Guys, Good grief. Stop picking on me!! I've done 3 tanks with Polyester putty and the Tamiay "blade". How many more do I need to do before you don't think I'm a Wuss???
I'm sure there will be plenty more kits in the future that I can "practice" zimm on.

Holy cow!

(Realize this is tongue in cheek and that I'm not offended! And, looking at my previous zimmed projects, it's apparent that I do, in fact, need practice. Lots and lots of practice!
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Posted by wipw on Friday, June 25, 2004 3:52 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by ausf

Bill,
You see what happens when you post in the aircraft forum? You see? You've lost your nerve! That's what happens!
No way, not me, uh uh. I'll build this Me109 but I'm staying put.
They got to you, man! There using some AC voodoo. They'll stick a pin in their 'wipw doll' and you'll buy another kit. Soon you'll start getting AM cockpits, and flat wheels and landing gear and....


ausf, been there, done that, am still doing that!! I buy every AM piece I can that isn't too expensive. I have 4 for that 1/72 P-51, and I only have ONE 1/71 P-51!! (Actually, one of them was a replacement for another that I'd messed up the parts, and another was a wheel set, so it doesn't count as a duplicate!
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