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I love, and hate, Archer Fine Transfers

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  • Member since
    November 2005
Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 12, 2004 12:06 PM
While I can burnish the dry-transfer off the mounting paper well enough, I seem to often mis-align them (placed at an odd angle) just enough that I can't stand to leave them alone! Arrggg!

Glenn
  • Member since
    November 2005
Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 12, 2004 10:50 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by gringe88

By the way Larry, if ever you get that frustrated again, just get up and walk away. Cool off and get some concentration back Ur less likely to ruin that many decals again if you just give yourself time. I've found that to be some of the most excellent modeling advice I've ever gotten.


Yeah, I actually did that between each decal. I don't think I "ruined" the decals.
  • Member since
    July 2004
  • From: ...Ask the other guy, he's got me zeroed-in...
Posted by gringe88 on Monday, July 12, 2004 8:31 AM
thx a lot for the advice jesse!Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]Big Smile [:D]
====================================== -Matt
  • Member since
    November 2005
Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, July 11, 2004 7:56 PM
Gringe,

I've just put some Archer German Uniform decals on some of my guys. Here's some suggestions:
1. Make sure you mount the figure on something like the end of a wood dowel. Then clamp the dowel in a vise or something.
2. After cutting out the decal, tape it in place on the figure. It takes time but trying to hold that small decal in place while rubbing the back is almost impossible.

Other then that, just have alot a patience and go SLOW. It's well worth it.

Jesse
  • Member since
    July 2004
  • From: ...Ask the other guy, he's got me zeroed-in...
Posted by gringe88 on Friday, July 9, 2004 11:18 PM
Now i'm really scared. I just ordered up some tiny Archer dry transfers from online, I mean things like German division, rank, and type symbols. I've never used archer before.

I've only used(and get thisShy [8)] ) Woodland scenics transfers. U know lettering and numbers and stuff. I think I had a little trouble but I just kept rubbing like U guys said. But now I'm worried. Are they that much of a pain?

By the way Larry, if ever you get that frustrated again, just get up and walk away. Cool off and get some concentration back Ur less likely to ruin that many decals again if you just give yourself time. I've found that to be some of the most excellent modeling advice I've ever gotten.
====================================== -Matt
  • Member since
    November 2005
Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 9, 2004 10:40 PM
Thanks guys, I'll look for that kind of burnishing tool. RAF, yup, I lift the paper up very slowly too, and that worked fine with the stars, but the stenciled letters are made up of lots of little dots, and it doesn't work for them.
  • Member since
    March 2003
  • From: Exit 7a NJ Turnpike
Posted by RAF120 on Friday, July 9, 2004 10:09 PM
I've used Archer a couple of times and with practice they work nice.
I lift the backing paper up real slow and look to see if the transfer is coming apart, if it is I lay the backing back down and rub again in that spot. That's what works for me.
Trevor Where am I going and why am I in this handbasket?
  • Member since
    April 2003
  • From: Central Wisconsin
Posted by Spamicus on Friday, July 9, 2004 7:08 PM
I've used some Archer transfers, but most of the dry stuff I use is Verlinden. They can be a pain as well. I use a blunt toothpick to burnish mine with. Doesn't mean it works right every time, but it does seem to get them to stick a little better for me.

Steve

  • Member since
    December 2003
  • From: Southern Maine
Posted by spector822002 on Friday, July 9, 2004 7:01 PM
I use a ball point pen and tape if possible , rub til it turns translucent then remove , they have worked fine for me so far here , but I know what you are saying larry if they have even the smallest speck still on the backing paper the transfer will fall apart
  • Member since
    March 2003
  • From: Rain USA, Vancouver WA
Posted by tigerman on Friday, July 9, 2004 4:37 PM
I love them. I admit they take a little practice at first. Perhaps the tool you used to burnish it on had something to do with the poor appplication.

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 Eric 

  • Member since
    April 2004
  • From: S.C. Beach
Posted by roowalker on Friday, July 9, 2004 4:25 PM
Had nothing but great success w. Archer transfers....
I have always applied over a flat or semi-gloss finish,
& I use a regular "burnishing tool" I found at a craft
store for burnishing thin copper plate designs.It has
tiny ball-shaped tips& cost all of $ 3.00. Hope this helps!!
  • Member since
    February 2003
  • From: Tochigi, Japan
Posted by J-Hulk on Friday, July 9, 2004 10:49 AM
Yikes! Sounds very frustrating.
I've only used MIG's dry transfers so far, and they went on with no problems whatsoever.
Your story makes me kind of wary of Archer now...
~Brian
  • Member since
    November 2005
I love, and hate, Archer Fine Transfers
Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 9, 2004 10:27 AM
I started putting the Archer transfers on my Mack NO last night. What a headache!

I love how they look when they are done, but putting them on is a royal pain. I rub and I rub and I rub (yeah, I know that sounds nasty Tongue [:P]), and then I lift the paper and part of the transfer stays on the paper! Grr, it's so annoying.

Just to be clear, I mean I rub the Censored [censored] out of these things. It's not that it's a disaster all the time. This was my first Archer white star application, and I screwed up the first one, so I just scraped it off and did it again. But the stencil lettering was a HUGE headache. Example: the sheet gives you six MAX SPEED stencils, and I needed one. Guess how many I went through before I got all of the stencil to stay on? Yup, SIX. I was in total despair as I started applying the sixth one, having scraped off five previous ones.

I can say that the big transfers go on ok, but I'm seriously considering switching to normal wet-method decals for the smaller ones, like these stencils.

Anyone had similar experiences? Despite all the griping, they do look great when on the kit. If they ever get on there, that is!
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