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Tiger I in the U.S.?

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Tiger I in the U.S.?
Posted by chester111472 on Monday, July 12, 2004 7:21 AM
Does anyone know if there is a 1:1 Tiger I in the U.S? I know of the one in Bovington, but I am not going to England anytime too soon with a new baby on the way. I live in Indianapolis which is only a couple of hours or so from the Patton museum in KY. Anyone been there?
Thanks a bunch!
Chad
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 12, 2004 7:40 AM
I know that the one that was here at the Ordnance Museum went back to germany. But that was many moons ago. I dont know if the Patton museum has one or not.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 12, 2004 7:45 AM
The Bovington Tiger was the one from Aberdeen. They have a Konig there still.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 12, 2004 2:02 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by ausf

The Bovington Tiger was the one from Aberdeen. They have a Konig there still.


No the Bovington Tiger 1 was captured by the British army and sent to Bovington camp during the war for tests
there is still a Porche Kingtiger, Henshell Kingtiger and a Porche Jagdtiger still in EnglandBig Smile [:D]

the Tiger 1 from Aberdeen was given back to Germanys Sinsheim museum in the 70s theres only a Henshell Jadtiger and Henshell Kingtiger and maybe a SturmTiger still in the USBig Smile [:D]
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Posted by tigerman on Monday, July 12, 2004 2:26 PM
That is a bummer.

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 Eric 

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 12, 2004 4:08 PM
All the goods are in europe. Oh well, have to visit sometime...
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 12, 2004 4:46 PM
Ryan

Don't feel so bad. At least you have some stuff over there. We have very little in Australia, other than the only remaining genuine German WW1 A7V Tank. That is here in Brisbane, Queensland, but is the only AFV in that Museum.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 12, 2004 6:12 PM
Damn, I always did want to see a Tiger I but didn't plan on visiting England any time soon (it's a long swim from Brooklyn).
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 12, 2004 6:34 PM
I feel real fortunate that I have pics of that Tiger that was at Aberdeen. However I could be wrong but I dont think that Tiger left the states till early nintys/late 80's because the Pic I have was taken in late 88.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 12, 2004 9:13 PM
As nearly as I can determine, there are only six intact Tiger Is in existance. The Bovington Tiger, two in France, one in Germany, and possibly, two in Russia. One of the Tigers in France is really nothing more than a rusty, bombed-out, burned-out shell, having been one of the few pieces of German armor to escape from the Falaise Gap, only to be destroyed and abondoned by its retreating crew when it broke down.

If anyone is aware of any others, I'd like to know.

I've heard the reason German armor is so scarce today is because at the conclusion of hostilities in Europe, an army of scrap metal dealers with cutting torches decended on the abandoned hulks dotting the country side and proceded to chop them into pieces. The pieces were sold to smelters, melted down and recycled as razor blades, toasters, VWs and Renaults to get the post-war economy rolling again.

The few examples that have managed to survive to today are mostly battlefield captures that were used for evaluation.

If only they'd had the foresight to save just a few more for future generations to admire!
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Posted by Spamicus on Monday, July 12, 2004 9:50 PM
I've got a ref book copywritten in 1996 that says the Aberdeen Tiger is on loan to Sinsheim. Anyway, the Patton museum is certainly worth a look even without a Tiger. There's plenty of old and prototype/never produced tanks sitting around on the fort as well. Hop in the car and make a day of it. Take plenty of film or memory sticks with you.

Steve

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 12, 2004 10:15 PM
Thanks the for the correction Cap'n,
That's what I get for reading too many books at once.
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Posted by marines1966 on Saturday, July 17, 2004 5:16 PM
The Patton museum had one, check with the museum for sure. I have some nice photos of armor and it is one of them.
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Posted by M1abramsRules on Saturday, July 17, 2004 5:53 PM
I don't think tere's a tiger 1 at patton. I didn't remember it from last year, so I did the virtual tour of the museum at generalpatton.org and there is definately not one in the building, I only knoe of american tanks on the grounds with maybe one or 2 exceptions. but they may have one in storage.
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Posted by gringe88 on Saturday, July 17, 2004 9:48 PM
somebody should get one of those old hulks lieing around and restore it. I've heard of people restoring things like panthers and such. surely there's got to be someone with enough money to do it. anybody want a call up Trump???
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Posted by r13b20 on Monday, July 19, 2004 4:28 PM
there are probably some buried out there some where. I seem to remember a tank of some kind being found in or near a school yard in the Philippines many years ago. (This is vague and anecdotal at best)
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Posted by M1abramsRules on Monday, July 19, 2004 6:24 PM
the swamps in russia always seem to be spitting something or other up from that era........
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 19, 2004 9:42 PM
I've seen photos of rusty, overgrown mounds that were once Tigers and Panthers, mostly in remote corners of eastern Europe and in Russia. But these were not intact vehicles. Most of them appeared to have been destroyed by powerful explosive charges that literally blew them apart much like what you'd expect if you set off a large firecracker inside a 1/35 scale model! Not a lot there to salvage.

Any restoration of a sixty-year-old tank is a daunting undertaking, even when you've got an intact hull, turrent and gun--just ask the folks at Bovington what they went through in restoring their Tiger!

Even though the Panthers and Tigers get all the attention, it was the Panzer IV that was the real workhorse, and are supposedly still a few of those around, and in pretty good condition to boot. Can't vouch for the accuracy of the following (and if anyone has more information, please share it), but I've heard tell that there are still some Panzer IVs in the Middle East. The story goes that a number of Panzer IVs were capturered intact by the Brits in 1945 and subsequently sold to Syria in the years after the war. The Syrians used them for many years and even deployed a few dozen of them against Israel in the 1967 war, even though by that time they were totally outclassed by the latest Israeli armor. The ones that weren't immediately knocked out were abandoned in the desert by their crews, who saw no point in giving up their lives in a hopeless cause . However, most were simply retired from service once they became obsolete and parked in tank farms, where they sit today. They should be in pretty good condition in that dry, desert air. If this is true, there's a tantalizing opportunity for some enterprising individual with deep pockets.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 20, 2004 1:33 AM
there is one at the patton museum I think... It is inside and has been "Cut Away" with plexiglass covering the cut outs... I went last year while my wife was going through some classes at Ft. Knox... that may have been a KT... I don't rememebr for sure...
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 20, 2004 10:57 AM
I was at the Patton Museum 2 years ago and they didn't have a Tiger I. They did have a King Tiger that has been cross-cut to show the interior ... what a monster that thing is!! There was a T34 also .. I think it was the 85mm version. Still worth the trip either way ... went to Aberdeen last year ... wonderful trip that was, but alas, no Tiger variants at all there. Tons o everything else though :).
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