Panther A Zimmerit

JWest21

Member since
December 2002
From: PA

Posted by JWest21 on Tuesday, July 27, 2004 8:56 PM

Arklight, did you get a chance to check out that book? Thanks

Jason "There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." -D. Barry

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JWest21

Member since
December 2002
From: PA

Posted by JWest21 on Friday, July 23, 2004 12:32 PM

Thanks. I will check back

Jason "There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." -D. Barry

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 23, 2004 12:30 PM

Np.

I'll check tonight and post book number and how many pics there are.

I'd take the pics and put them on here but I don't have a scanner or digital camera. :(

Ark

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JWest21

Member since
December 2002
From: PA

Posted by JWest21 on Friday, July 23, 2004 11:27 AM

Arklight,
If you remember what volume it was, let me know. My LHS doesn't have these, so I can't leaf through them. At $25 a pop, I want to make sure I ge thte right one. Thanks again

Jason "There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." -D. Barry

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JWest21

Member since
December 2002
From: PA

Posted by JWest21 on Friday, July 23, 2004 11:20 AM

Thanks Arklight

Jason "There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." -D. Barry

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wildwilliam

Member since
December 2009
From: West Grove, PA

Posted by wildwilliam on Friday, July 23, 2004 11:07 AM

Ark,
welcome to the forums & thanks for the info.
a new lead to track!

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 23, 2004 10:00 AM

The Tankpower Series by Waldemar Trojca has some pics of Panthers with the diamond pattern zimm.

The books can be bought from www.abebooks.com. Not sure which book in the series has the pics but I know there are some there, I was just looking at the diamond pattern last night.

Hope this helps!

Ark

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JWest21

Member since
December 2002
From: PA

Posted by JWest21 on Wednesday, July 21, 2004 8:42 AM

If you find anything, please let me know! I have checked out Squadron's book (there is an example of a turret on pg 31 that is close, but not it) and Osprey's Panther book with no luck. I looked a lot online too. E-mail me if you get anything. jason@ronwestagency.com

Jason "There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." -D. Barry

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 20, 2004 10:37 PM

im sure the diamond pattern was used, but i can see pictures being extremely hard to come by, im sure there out there somewhere. ill start doing some digging.

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JWest21

Member since
December 2002
From: PA

Posted by JWest21 on Tuesday, July 20, 2004 8:36 PM

I test fit it to the 60th anniversary release and it seems to match up. Before you buy it, you might want to see what other Zimmerit sets are available. The damaged look it really neat, but all Panther A reference pictures either have a horizontal tiled look or a ridged/combed look. This is a diamond pattern and I have looked high and low for an example of one like this with no luck. I am trying to figure out what color or what numbers to use. I am considering buying a different tiled set

Jason "There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." -D. Barry

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 20, 2004 8:25 PM

does the Verlinden damaged zimmerit fit the Panther A that Dragon just recently released or is for an older kit, i ordered the new one from Great Models but i read that all Panther As had zimmerit coating on it, and i would like to go aftermarket on it instead of getting headaches with the paste.

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wipw

Member since
January 2003
From: Utah - USA

Posted by wipw on Tuesday, July 20, 2004 6:10 PM

I don't think Robert's on much anymore. I haven't seen any posts by him for a while. But sure glad to have you back! We've tried to muddle through giving zimm advice here and there where we could, but you da man!

Congrats, again, on your daughter.

Bill ==========================================================

DML M4A2 Red Army ==========================================================

========================================================== -- There is a fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness". (Author unknown)

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Moses

Member since
February 2003
From: Long Island

Posted by Moses on Tuesday, July 20, 2004 6:08 PM

Hey Bill..great to see ya old man. Yeah I am back in full form. Glad to be back and tell that old man up North I'm keeping my eye out for him Wink [;)]

"ZIM FIRST, ASK QUESTIONS LATER!!"

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wipw

Member since
January 2003
From: Utah - USA

Posted by wipw on Tuesday, July 20, 2004 3:38 PM

Welcome back, Mo. We have all missed hearing from you!

Bill ==========================================================

DML M4A2 Red Army ==========================================================

========================================================== -- There is a fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness". (Author unknown)

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 20, 2004 2:37 PM

Glad to see you again Moses.

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JWest21

Member since
December 2002
From: PA

Posted by JWest21 on Tuesday, July 20, 2004 1:38 PM

Moses, I sent you an e-mail with a couple of general questions. Thanks for the help!

Jason "There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." -D. Barry

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Moses

Member since
February 2003
From: Long Island

Posted by Moses on Monday, July 19, 2004 7:59 PM

Hey wildwilliam long time bud. Ya been getting back in the swing of things here. I am near completion of my Tiger 1 Mid Pro that I posted ages ago with full zim..hopefully I could get pics up by weeks end. I have a nice Stug III F that has had my eye for a long time..maybe it is time to break open the goodies. I'll post in that thread.

JWest..I use MSN and my MSN account is moses96thid@hotmail.com. If you ever need any help regarding using that brass zim, never hesitate to message me.

Cheers

Mo

"ZIM FIRST, ASK QUESTIONS LATER!!"

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JWest21

Member since
December 2002
From: PA

Posted by JWest21 on Monday, July 19, 2004 3:17 PM

THATS what I had hoped to get. My mistake was ordering it on a laptop where I could barely see the picture. I thought it was more like that, but I guessed wrong. Chalk that up to a learning experience

Jason "There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." -D. Barry

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crockett

Member since
April 2004
From: The cornfields of Ohio

Posted by crockett on Monday, July 19, 2004 3:08 PM

Here is the eduard zim set on my early A, I searched high and low for an early or late A with diamond zim and could not find one. This pattern most accurately represents early A factory applied zim, maybe you should go this route.

Steve

http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v282/crockett007/Panther_A_prog_3.jpg
http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v282/crockett007/Panther_A_prog_1.jpg
http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v282/crockett007/panther_progress.jpg

Tigers no Lions, no Bears...OH MY

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JWest21

Member since
December 2002
From: PA

Posted by JWest21 on Monday, July 19, 2004 3:03 PM

Thanks wildwilliam. Not much hope here, either.

Jason "There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." -D. Barry

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wildwilliam

Member since
December 2009
From: West Grove, PA

Posted by wildwilliam on Monday, July 19, 2004 2:48 PM

goodness!
a Moses sighting !! Big Smile [:D]

not to worry, you are STILL the zim guru.
no one is after that mantle! Tongue [:P]

welcome back. i trust the wife & daughter are doing well.
allow me to plant a subliminal message
(Stug build)
Smile [:)]

JWest - sorry, i can offer no help on the Zim front.
i will keep my eyes open, but i am not full of hope.

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JWest21

Member since
December 2002
From: PA

Posted by JWest21 on Monday, July 19, 2004 2:24 PM

Oh- and I understand the hiatus with a new daughter. I have a three year old and a 11 month old and I don't get much time to build anything. (I was working on a Pazer Mk. III before the three year old trashed my decals).

Jason "There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." -D. Barry

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JWest21

Member since
December 2002
From: PA

Posted by JWest21 on Monday, July 19, 2004 2:20 PM

Mo,

Any tips you have for using PE Zimmerit would be appreciated! This will be my first time using it, so any help is appreciated. Your right about killing myself with historical accuracies. It's seems I have a touch of OCD...

Jason "There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." -D. Barry

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Moses

Member since
February 2003
From: Long Island

Posted by Moses on Monday, July 19, 2004 1:52 PM

I say go with it JWest. Killing yourself with complete historical accuracies will keep you held up for a long time. Smile [:)]

Verlinden's Zim is brass correct? If it is..I have some good techniques that work well on making sure that it goes on seemless. I used to be the zim guru of the forums..before I went on an extended hiatis after my duaghter was born Black Eye [B)]

Cheers

Mo

"ZIM FIRST, ASK QUESTIONS LATER!!"

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JWest21

Member since
December 2002
From: PA

Posted by JWest21 on Monday, July 19, 2004 1:45 PM

Hard to tell what the turret numbers are. Based on what I have learned, I am thinking a plain gelb tank is the way to go. Not quite sure what to do about the numbers, however. I might just pick some from the spares box.

Jason "There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." -D. Barry

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 19, 2004 1:28 PM

I should clarify in that I think that particular picture is a A, although I think I have some pics of tiled "D"s in Italy as well. Regarding that particular pic, I'm guessing 'gelb A and I think there are some turret numbers, but they are very faded.

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JWest21

Member since
December 2002
From: PA

Posted by JWest21 on Monday, July 19, 2004 1:24 PM

So maybe Verlinden should have made their diamond pattern for a D instead? That link looks like a monocolored tank (not going far out on a limb and guessing dunkelgelb) with no visible markings.

Jason "There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." -D. Barry

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 19, 2004 12:49 PM

The pics I have of tiled "D"s in Italy are in a book that won't fit in a scanner. I think this pic might be one of its close kin somewhere in Italy. Can't tell without blowing up the picture though.
http://www.ww2mmrefphotos.com/images/27%20kills/Panther_1.jpg

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JWest21

Member since
December 2002
From: PA

Posted by JWest21 on Sunday, July 18, 2004 12:13 PM

I saw that. Unfortunately that has the combed second layer. Verlinden's set has a smooth diamond pattern. They must like their customers to really have to work for accuracy. On top of not having any info on the pattern they provide, they didn't include any instructions either, leaving me just two pics on the box to go by. What fun!

Jason "There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." -D. Barry

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