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Posted by r13b20 on Monday, July 19, 2004 4:48 PM
Artillery= King of Battle! Sure does humble you when you see the results, doesn't it? All that armor and not much left. Even the King Tiger! What one man builds, another can destroy. Sorta gives you the willies don't it?
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Posted by wbill76 on Saturday, July 17, 2004 3:05 PM
Have you tried typing the link into your browser to see if you get the same result? Link works fine from three different machines that I can test from...
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Posted by rebelreenactor on Saturday, July 17, 2004 12:17 PM
Every time I press the link, I get, Cannot Find Server. Anyone know what is wrong?
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Posted by wbill76 on Saturday, July 17, 2004 10:57 AM
The other interesting fact, if the notations on how they were destroyed is accurate, most of them met their fate from artillery or were abandoned/destroyed by their crews.

Some of them are hardly recognizable as vehicles anymore and must have taken a horrible pounding or had a catastrophic hit to fuel/ammo, etc.
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Posted by gringe88 on Friday, July 16, 2004 11:01 PM
total destruction is all I can say. that one of the panther grabbed hold of me too. after seeing those Pz IV's having been completely torn apart by lesser sized shells, its amazing to see that panther with a rather neat little hole in it from a 155mm shell hit. It looks like someone just carved it out with an asceltilene(????) torch. still, I sure as hell wouldn't have wanted to be the poor guy that had to be in the front og that beast when it was hit, or newhere else in it for that mattar. either way, there's not gonna be much left for the kinderlach(????????) to bury.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 16, 2004 9:29 AM
looks like the pictures can provide some excellent diorama ideas and photos to follow with
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 16, 2004 3:11 AM
Like, wow, man. That's cool.
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Posted by fightnjoe on Thursday, July 15, 2004 10:55 PM
hmmm some ideas come to mind. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm......

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Posted by Buddho on Thursday, July 15, 2004 10:27 PM
I have that photo too, Dwight, and the caption states it was knocked out by an M-36 Jackson.

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Posted by wbill76 on Thursday, July 15, 2004 10:08 PM
It all depends on range and muzzle velocity. The standard 75mm on the Sherman was known for it's relatively low muzzle velocity (as opposed to the 76mm on the Firefly for example) and this impacted it's penetration ability at any kind of range. Lower caliber rounds with higher muzzle velocity can achieve some astounding results depending on circumstances and where they are able to make the hits.

The site is predominantly Russian and can probably be taken with a grain of salt to some degree...but the destruction is very realistic and caught my attention as it's very rare to see pics of destroyed vehicles in the quantity and variety they have.
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Posted by Dwight Ta-ala on Thursday, July 15, 2004 9:03 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by wbill76

The one that really grabbed my attention was the Panther that had a 155 mm hit to the front and a 57 mm hit to the turret. The 57mm is a nice round hole and the 155 looks like a giant bite was taken out of the front side! [:0]


I read somewhere in the web about an american soldier's account of WWII where the Panther tanks arrived somewhere near Belgium bout the same time of Operation Market Garden. When an american officer spotted them advancing through a wooded area, he alledgely went back to their camp and brought a 57mm anti-tank gun. With that they were able to disable about 4 Panthers, he said. Of course I was doubtful having read about the Panther's armor being impervious to even the Sherman's 75mm gun at long to medium ranges. But I guess if we look closely into data, these tanks are not that invulnerable after all.Smile [:)]

BTW, that destroyed Jadg with an american G.I. standing in front of it was reported in another website (a WWII Tank Destroyer Battalion Site, I think) to have been taken down by an M-36 Jackson with a 90mm gun. Many don't believe it but I think I do.Wink [;)]

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Posted by tigerman on Thursday, July 15, 2004 9:01 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by wbill76

The one that really grabbed my attention was the Panther that had a 155 mm hit to the front and a 57 mm hit to the turret. The 57mm is a nice round hole and the 155 looks like a giant bite was taken out of the front side! [:0]




Those were the two that caught my attention also. I find it hard to believe that a 57mm penetrated a King Tiger.

   http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/wing_nut_5o/PANZERJAGERGB.jpg

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Posted by wbill76 on Thursday, July 15, 2004 8:38 PM
The one that really grabbed my attention was the Panther that had a 155 mm hit to the front and a 57 mm hit to the turret. The 57mm is a nice round hole and the 155 looks like a giant bite was taken out of the front side! [:0]

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Posted by lizardqing on Thursday, July 15, 2004 6:54 PM
Ran across that site myself before. Saw a few pics that would make great "What was this tank" quizzes.
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Posted by Dwight Ta-ala on Thursday, July 15, 2004 6:27 PM
A KT knocked out by a 57mm gun? Well that will certainly offer some new perspective on the armor of the beast.

Nice links. Good refs.

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Posted by yw18mc on Thursday, July 15, 2004 4:57 PM
I think you've influnced my decision on the future of a problem jagpanzer. not quite ready yet too throw in the hat. good site thanks for the link. semper fi, mike
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Posted by zokissima on Thursday, July 15, 2004 4:35 PM
Thanks for the link. Definitely a dio inspiration.
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Posted by stukabomb88 on Thursday, July 15, 2004 3:26 PM
good stuff!!Cool [8D]
got me a fine interior picture of a t-34
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Posted by gdarwin on Thursday, July 15, 2004 1:32 PM
Big Smile [:D] cool site ,thanks for the info.Big Smile [:D]

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Destroyed Victims Site
Posted by wbill76 on Thursday, July 15, 2004 12:42 PM
Wandered across this site, thought I'd post the link for those interested. It's a collection of photos showing knocked out Soviet and German vehicles of all types and timeframes. Very handy as a reference link for dios or showing battle damage.

http://www.battlefield.ru/destroyed/german.html
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