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What is a good kit for a first time armour builder?

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What is a good kit for a first time armour builder?
Posted by rodc on Friday, July 30, 2004 10:47 AM
Hello Tankers Tongue [:P],

I usually build things that fly or float and not these big metal contraptions you guys all seem to love Big Smile [:D].

All kidding aside, I am interested in building some sort of BIG, NASTY LOOKING tank Wow!! [wow]. Any advice would be appreciated.

I am looking for something that would make you Censored [censored] your pants if you saw it rumbling towards you at a distance, not too expensive and something I can build OOTB. I am not too worried about historical accuracy but would prefer something from the WW2 era and either German or American.

A picture post of your suggestions would be really cool since I do not have a clue when it comes to armour.......

Thanks,

RODC
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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Friday, July 30, 2004 10:59 AM
For American, the Tamiya M26 Pershing is a good kit and you do not have to worry about elaborate paint schemes.

For a German tank, the new DML King Tigers or the Tamiya King Tigers are impressive looking tanks. Tamiya kits will be easier to assemble than DML.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 30, 2004 11:44 AM
If you want something impressive, I would recommend a modern era U.S. Abrams. I know that you would prefer a WWII tank but the Tamiya Abrams with the mineplow is a great kit and it looks quite intimidating. Good luck with whatever you choose.
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Posted by J-Hulk on Friday, July 30, 2004 12:19 PM
The Dragon E-100 should be able to satisfy all the criteria you mentioned!
~Brian
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Posted by gdarwin on Friday, July 30, 2004 12:31 PM
Big Smile [:D] hi ,i dont build to many tanks at this time,ijust wanted welcom you to the darkside. i you listen to the others in the foum you cant go wrong,Big Smile [:D]

gdarwin[roy]
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Posted by wipw on Friday, July 30, 2004 1:02 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by J-Hulk

The Dragon E-100 should be able to satisfy all the criteria you mentioned!


Hey Brian, the Maus has been rereleased, too! Wonder how long it will be around this time.

Welcome to the darkside, Rod. Any of the Tamiya Tigers or the Panther G's are great kits. For about half the price, you can go with any of Dragon's Panthers, but you'll have to contend with their independent link tracks. Their Elefant and Ferdinand models are nice, too. There's a lot out there to choose from.

Good luck and let us kono what you decide on.
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Posted by rodc on Friday, July 30, 2004 4:11 PM
The Dark Side????? Is that something you guys coined yourselves or something the Aircraft builders gave you??? Pretty funny....I may lurk around here more often.

Seriously though, thanks for the input. It would appear that the Tiger may be in the lead for a first kit choice. Probably Tamiya just because of the quality.

Cheers,

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Posted by Foster7155 on Friday, July 30, 2004 4:35 PM
Welcome to our world...dark though it may be.

I'd say a Tamiya Tiger would be a great choice. I had never touched an armor model when I built one a year ago and now I'm hooked for good. I prefer DML now - for their individual track links - but I wouldn't recommended them the first time out. You're gonna love the darkside!

Enjoy your modeling...

Robert Foster

Pensacola Modeleers

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 30, 2004 6:50 PM
Rod,

I agree with Foster7155. Go with a Tamiya for the quality of fit and one piece vinyl tracks, for your first tank. You requested something that looks "Bad A** coming at you" and less expensive. Although both are post WWII, I suggest:

The Tamiya M41 Walker Bulldog for about $20.+/-



and

The Tamiya IDF Merkava I for about $25.+/-



Whatever you decide on building, show and tell us about it.
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Posted by wipw on Monday, August 2, 2004 10:37 AM
Rod, one thing more. The Tamiya Tiger I Late has independent tracks also. One other thing you might want to consider that no one has mentioned... Academy has two Tiger's out with full interiors. They retail for $55, but you can get them mail order for less, and ocassionally find them on sale. (Great Models had them on sale for the last two weeks, but I don't know if they still are.) There are a couple of articles (one on each) on the Missing Links web site.

www.missing-lynx.com

The interiors aren't totally accurate, but from what I've seen, look real cool when built. (And they come with both "rubber band" and independent link tracks!)

Good luck.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 2, 2004 2:03 PM
I caught ya RodcWink [;)]. I have built the Tamiya Tiger I and dont let the indy tracks fool ya, they arent too bad. I did hand Zimm on my first one and wouldnt suggest it for you. Now I am looking for more armor (got a personal build with Tigerman when our schedule collide again Wink [;)], hoping I had forgot that huh lol)
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Posted by tigerman on Monday, August 2, 2004 3:17 PM
I saw your new thread Jeff, and I called you on it.

Welcome to another wing-nut. You want big and bad eh? Well you've got some good choices. I'd also recommend DML's Elefant, but that might be too advanced for you at this time. Tamyia's Tiger family is well respected by the community, but they do come with the indy tracks. Like Jeff said, they're not hard but overwhelming for a first timer. If you want a brute without the indy tracks, look no further than Tamiya's King Tiger with Production turret. It has the one piece tracks and goes together like butter. It does have a mesh screen to cut out. To further enhance it, I'd look into some engine grilles made by Eduard or even Tamiya. Can't go wrong with it. Good luck.

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 Eric 

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Posted by wipw on Tuesday, August 3, 2004 9:17 AM
QUOTE: Tamyia's Tiger family is well respected by the community, but they do come with the indy tracks.


Eric, as far as I know, only one of Tamiya's Tigers comes with the indy tracks. Is it the mid or the late? I can't remember! Crap! Maybe it's the other way around and only one of them comes with vinyl tracks! I'll have to look. Now you done and got me confuseticated!
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Posted by tigerman on Tuesday, August 3, 2004 10:15 AM
Bill, I can tell you for a fact that the Late comes with indies. I just expected the others, due to their high cost, also included them. My apologies for misleading anyone.

Confusticated? Confused [%-)]

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 Eric 

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Posted by wipw on Tuesday, August 3, 2004 3:06 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by tigerman

Bill, I can tell you for a fact that the Late comes with indies. I just expected the others, due to their high cost, also included them. My apologies for misleading anyone.

Confusticated? Confused [%-)]


Yeah, CON-FUSE-TI-CATE-ED

Comes from my kids description of something that doesn't work...

BUST-I-CATE-ED


I'll check my Tamiya Tigers when I go home for tracks.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 3, 2004 3:26 PM
Good ideas so far, but I've got a great alternate suggestion for ya (especially your pocketbook!). The only thing it doesn't fit is German or American. It's the Russian IS-IIIm by Trumpeter. A cheap kit (around sixteen bucks!), a good model and the thing is a beast. Truly scary looking, huge and squat, like a really big, old Nile crocodile.


(Note this pic is just intended to show what an IS-III looks like -- this kit is a fancy build-up with all kinds of AM stuff on it.)

What a monster this thing was! Designed to lock horns with King Tigers and the like, it was used by Arab armies until the late 60's. The Trumpeter kit even gives you decals of a fancy black eagle emblem so you can paint it sand for the Egyptian army in 1967. Or you can just use it as a Soviet tank. This thing would have made the Pershing sweat! But luckily we never had to fight them -- AFAIK they were not used in Korea.
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