Tigers at Arnhem

Don't know about Tigers, but there were StuG III Gs involved. Do searches under Market Garden and am sure you can get some reference pics. Some of the resident experts can probably add more detailed info, but that's a start I'd recommend.

Can't state for sure if any Tigers were present. The 9th and 10th Panzer Divisions were present. My guess is a Tiger may have been there, based on the fact the SS tended to get the best equipment. Unable to find info though.

The yellow is known as Dunkelgelb. Tamiya makes a version called Dark Yellow. I haven't used Model Master's but it is probably under a RML# or called Dunkelgelb.

According to my "Armor at war series" reference book, the following Panzer divisions were in the Arnhem area: Primary armor listed in ( )..

9th SS Panzer division "Hohenstaufen" , SS-pz AA.9 (Jagdpanzer IV)
10th SS Panzer division "Frundsberg", I./SS-Pz Rgt.10 (Pz IV, StugIII, Panther)
Panzer-Ersatz Reg. (Pz III, IV)
schwere Panzer-Kompanie Hummel, Gruppe Fuhrer (Tiger I)
schwere Panzer-Ableilung 506, 2nd and 3rd gruppe Fuhrer (Tiger II)
Sturmgeschutz-brigade 280, Gruppe Fuhrer ( Stug III, Stuh 42G)
Panzer-kompanie 244 Gruppe Fuhrer (PzB2, 35s Flammpanzers)

Hope this helps..

Excellent info Panther18, I knew someone would have more.

it looks like the sPz-Abt 506 defended Arnhem,and they used King Tigers

http://www.fprado.com/armorsite/tigers-02.htm
http://www.tankzone.co.uk/pages/ww2_tiger_battalions.htm
regards

Dave

You guys are amazing! I think I posted this 15 minutes ago! Thanks Panther 18 for the whirlwind research. Now, if only you guys could give me the numbers for the next lottery.......


Thanks again guys.

As a quick aside, a friend of mine from Seattle had a Porsche 911 with the license plate pzkpfw IV. In 4 years the only people who recognized what his plate meant were myself and a customs officer between Vancouver, BC Canada and the US!!! Don't imagine he would have got past you guys.

Cheers.

Panther18 is right on the mark. I 'm building a Tiger I from Kampfgruppe Hummel and a King Tiger from schwere PzAbt 506. I may build a Panther from the 10.SS. Frundsberg.

http://users.interstroom.nl/~heijink/marketgarden/2nd_Bat_Arnhem.html

this link says Tiger 1 were involved at Arnhem

regards

Dave

well researched Panther 18



Dave

Hey bismark9,
Great web site for Operation Market Garden .
rememberseptember44.com
And yes there were tigers present at M.G.

this article reports that 14 Tiger 1s were railed in , but only 2 made it to Arnhem, the others broke done, very interesting , if report is accurate..

http://orbat.com/site/sturmvogel/tigers.html

Dave

QUOTE: Originally posted by tiger_dave this article reports that 14 Tiger 1s were railed in , but only 2 made it to Arnhem, the others broke done, very interesting , if report is accurate.. http://orbat.com/site/sturmvogel/tigers.html Dave

Qualifies, but barely. I'm a bit surprised to find Tiger II's there. Nice thread.

QUOTE: Originally posted by tiger_dave this article reports that 14 Tiger 1s were railed in , but only 2 made it to Arnhem, the others broke done, very interesting , if report is accurate.. http://orbat.com/site/sturmvogel/tigers.html Dave

14 Tiger I's
28 Tiger II's
8 Panthers

I also have companie/ tank numbers also..

Excellent research Harry.

HI Panther 18,

Thanks for excellent info. I could use some tank numbers from the tiger 1's. Also, what colours would those tanks have been? I will try to find some decal numbers for them that would match. If I can't do you know who would make them? Thanks for your research. I have 4 Red Devils with a Piat that are just itching to knock some road wheels of my tiger!

Thanks again.

More than likely, they would have had the tri-color pattern of Dunkelgelb, Olive Grun and Red Brun.

Tigerman's right on the color scheme..
The associated Tigers were:
101 command Tiger-Hauptmann Hummel, 102
111,112,113.114
121,122,123,124
131,132,133,134

TigerIIs of the 506 2nd companie were numbered:
2+01 Hauptmann Wacker, 2+02,
2+03, 2+04, and so on to 2+14
506 3rd companie
3+01 Hauptmann Otto, 3+02, 3+03,
3+04 and so on to 3+14

Thanks Harry and Eric. Appreciate the info. I'll post pics when its finished.

Color plates of the cats are available. If you want them, just holler.

Hi Peridexion,

Thanks for the offer. Do you have the links for those photos?

Sorry, they need to be scanned from my books, not from online.

Bismark. See if you can get your hands on a copy of Concords "German Armoured Units at Arnhem' . It is a fantastic book with loads of pics and colour plates.

As to your intial question:

Schwere Panzer Kompanie Hummel had 16 Tiger 1's: all early pattern hull with rear hull smoke dischargers and filter equipment removed. Interim series turrets with modified Cupola's.

Schwere Panzer Abteilung 506 had 28 Tiger 2's and were present at Oosterbeek and Elst, but were pretty useless there in the confined areas. All had zim.

The 9th SS had :
SS panzer AA 9: 10 SdKfz 234/3, 15 sdkfz 251/9 (stummel late type), 12 sdkfz 250/1(mix of ALT and NEU) and 3 sdkfz 251/1ausf D
ss-pz jg abt 9: 2 Jagdpanzer IV's
SS Pz Flak ABT 9: 6 late version mobelwagon's and one SdKfz 10/2 (Demag D7)
SS Pz pio abt 9: 2 sdkfz 251 ausf d pioneer vehicles.

10 SS panzer Division had:
I/ SS Panzer Rgmt 10: 8 Panther Ausf G (early)
II/ SS Panzer Rgmt 10: 12 Panzer IV (mix of Ausf G and ausf H) and 3 Stug 3
ss-pz AA 10: number of sdkfz 250 and 251 and at least one pz Spwg P204 (Panhard armoured car)
SS Pz Flak ABT 10: at least 3 Sdkfz 7/1 (quad 20mm)

Sturmgeschutz Brigade 280 had:
7 Stug 3 Ausf G late (saukopf) mantlet all with raked zim. Rumour of early Ausf G's but no pics.
3 STuh 42 G late (these had no muzzle Break) with waffle pattern Zim.

Panzer company Meilke operated between Arnhem and Elst and had 1 Panzer 4 ausf H and 1 Ausf G, as well as 4 Panzer 3 ausf M's and 2 Ausf G's

Panzer Kompanie 244 "Gruppe Fuhrer" had:
1 PzKpfw 35S (f) (French Somoua)
2 PzKpfw B2 (f) (French Char B1and B2)
13 Flakpanzer B2 (Char B2 with 7.5 cm gun replaced by flamethrower)