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  • From: Long Island
Posted by Moses on Monday, August 9, 2004 10:13 PM
The rumor is that the reason teh Tasca Luchs is so expensicve is becuase the Owners of the Company rent out the mold system from Tamiya. Another rumor is that the perosn who designed the mold is an ex-Tamiya employee. This is the reason for the high quality kit. Again it costs Tasca more money to produce the mold, plus they are not making them in huge quantities, thus the price falls on the consumer. As far as the tracks go, isn't the Tristar Panzer I the kit that comes with Mk workables?
"ZIM FIRST, ASK QUESTIONS LATER!!"
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Posted by JWest21 on Monday, August 9, 2004 7:33 PM
looks great! It is always nice to know I am not the only one who loses parts!
Jason "There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." -D. Barry
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Posted by wipw on Monday, August 9, 2004 5:43 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by tigerman

Bill (WIPW) would be our resident Panzer II expert. He turned a $8 kit into about $120 with AM parts added. In other words lots of work. The main problems with the Tamiya kit is that is very old and has molded on tools and such. Also if you like motorized holes in the hull, look no further. Comes with some very crude figures. Still it is considered a great "beginners" kit.


Thanks, Eric, and here it is (my sig). But Eric was a touch off. It was closer to $170, if you figure in all the books, paint, duplicate parts due to tweezerpulting, etc. Hope I never do that again!!! But it was fun. The Eduard Jerry can rack on the right rear hull was a pain, and I've never seen a pic with one on it in that position.
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Posted by JWest21 on Monday, August 9, 2004 7:45 AM
TigerII- I was piecing things together from a couple sheets yesterday. Finished the decals yesterday- they worked great. Man, Dragon's decals are brittle. Just need to do the tracks, dust coat it and I will get some pics up. I haven't had the time to work on it as much as I have wanted
Jason "There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." -D. Barry
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Posted by renarts on Sunday, August 8, 2004 11:12 PM
Ya know what? My bad. I stand corrected. Alan has the indys. Tasca has the vinyl.
My apologies. I was sure that when I looked in that kit at the show though it had a sprue of indys. Guess I was wrong. Maybe they all run together after a while. Please forgive my mistake. I'll go stick my head down the barrel now.....
Mike "Imagination is the dye that colors our lives" Marcus Aurellius A good friend will come and bail you out of jail...but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn...that was fun!"
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Posted by TigerII on Sunday, August 8, 2004 10:53 PM
Hi JWest.

How did those decals work out for your tank. I hope they were useful. As for the Panzer II. I built the Pz II in ausf F instead of G. You can check out the link.

Tiger II

http://www.kitpic.com/is.php?i=3382&img=2004_0514PzkpfwIII0061.jpg

Achtung Panzer! Colonel General Heinz Guderian
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 8, 2004 7:48 PM
LOL!!! I could have swore that I read a review in the TMM that says it has rubberband tracks but that they are very nice.

Here is a review off of Perth: http://www.perthmilitarymodelling.com/reviews/vehicles/tasca/tasca35006.htm
It says is has Vinyl tracks....
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Posted by JWest21 on Sunday, August 8, 2004 7:41 PM
OK...workables? indies? rubber bands? Chrome dubs with spinners? Squadron says rubber bands http://www.squadron.com/ItemDetails.asp?item=ta35006
Jason "There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." -D. Barry
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Posted by JWest21 on Sunday, August 8, 2004 7:34 PM
Nah, hadn't placed it yet. I wished it did have workables, but it still sounds like a great kit. I am going to either get it or the ICM, or maybe both. Think the wife would buy the "I am doing a comparison for the good people at the Armor forum" line?
Jason "There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." -D. Barry
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 8, 2004 7:33 PM
Does it.... ? I though I read a review to where it didn't......oh well once again Kenneth was wrong.... I will back away slowly now so ya'll please be gentle... I do appoligise...!
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Posted by wbill76 on Sunday, August 8, 2004 7:29 PM
Wonder if Jwest has already placed his order or not....Shock [:O]
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 8, 2004 7:26 PM
MY MISTAKE!!! I got mixed up and though we were talking about the Tristart PZ I for some reason. The Tasca kit don't come with workables but it is an amazing kit. It has a functional suspension and about the finest details imaginable but alas has rubber band tracks.

The Tristar Pz I does have MK workables in it and is also a super kit.


Sorry for the mixup ....Disapprove [V]
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Posted by matthew9 on Sunday, August 8, 2004 7:14 PM
I've built the ICM pz ll-L, I liked so much, I have 3! This is also the 1 I learned/ practiced individual track links with. I've built DML, Alan, pzll a-c. If i remember, these two were basicly the same, It took alot of fitting and the tracks took alot of patients.If I remember ,the DML had more parts. Both were a challenge. I've built a few tamiya pzll's. much easier, makes later versions-(f+g) I think. It's has been awhile and i am writing this from memory . I have a ICM pzll-D although I have not got to it yet. I hope this helps.



















Matt
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Posted by renarts on Sunday, August 8, 2004 7:02 PM
The tasca is one of the better kits out there right now. Well worth the price IMO. The Tamiya is a good kit as well and with a little work can be truned into a top notch piece of modeling. The alan kit is a challenge. Workable and again, with a firm resolve, can be made into a nice presentation. But not for the faint hearted, beginers, or those sticklers for well represented accuracy (ok for a representation piece but a rivet counter will eat it for lunch). There are a few other companies out there producing this but the tasca is the best so far.
Mike "Imagination is the dye that colors our lives" Marcus Aurellius A good friend will come and bail you out of jail...but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn...that was fun!"
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Posted by JWest21 on Sunday, August 8, 2004 6:44 PM
well, I definitely can't say no to that line of logic. I think I shall place my order now!
Jason "There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." -D. Barry
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 8, 2004 6:36 PM
Yeah... thats what I said. I think the price is well worth it having the workable tracks included. They would certainly be fiddley to work with being so small but they look amazing. If you have the chance to get it do so...
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Posted by JWest21 on Sunday, August 8, 2004 6:33 PM
ahh.....I didn't realize that it came with the tracks. Must....buy.....now
Jason "There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." -D. Barry
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 8, 2004 6:21 PM
Tasca's kit comes with a 35 dollar set of Modelkastens tracks included with it, thats why its so expensive. Break it down and your only paying 15-20 bucks for the tank... not bad. I have heard nothing but good things about this kit. I have some of their figures but I haven't bought the Pz II yet... My NSLHS has one but I have enough stuff right now...
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 8, 2004 6:09 PM
I don`t remember exactly but this is a Alain I think.....I built it last year so I don`t really remember...



//Nord
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Posted by tigerman on Sunday, August 8, 2004 2:36 PM
Bill (WIPW) would be our resident Panzer II expert. He turned a $8 kit into about $120 with AM parts added. In other words lots of work. The main problems with the Tamiya kit is that is very old and has molded on tools and such. Also if you like motorized holes in the hull, look no further. Comes with some very crude figures. Still it is considered a great "beginners" kit.

   http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/wing_nut_5o/PANZERJAGERGB.jpg

 Eric 

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Posted by wbill76 on Sunday, August 8, 2004 2:11 PM
Only one I've ever been able to lay my hands on is the very old Tamiya Pz II Auf. G. Haven't tried any of the others.
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Panzer II
Posted by JWest21 on Sunday, August 8, 2004 1:32 PM
I have heard great things about Tasca's Panzer II, but since it is $50, it leads me to ask- what are the other 1/35th Panzer IIs like? I see Mirage, ICM and Alan have versions. Has anyone built those?
Jason "There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." -D. Barry
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