A Turning 8-rad???

Foster7155

Member since
July 2003
From: Pensacola, FL

A Turning 8-rad???

Posted by Foster7155 on Friday, August 20, 2004 5:06 PM

Hey all,

Here's my dilemma. I've spent the better part of 4 hours searching the Internet and going through all of my 40 or so reference books on German vehicles and I can only come to one conclusion...8-rad vehicles NEVER turned!!! They just rolled straight to the battle field, fought, and then retreated in perfectly straight reverse. Big Smile [:D]

Well, okay. Maybe they just never turned when there was a photographer in the area. I did find one rather poor picture of a SdKfz 263 with it's wheels just slightly turned to one side...and I mean slightly!

Can anyone out there prove me wrong? What I'd really like is just one good clear (semi-clear) picture of any 8-rad (231/234 or variant) in a full turn...3/4 turn would be nice...1/2 turn is appreciated...anything less than 1/4 turn, I've already got. Thanks in advance.

Enjoy your modeling...

Robert Foster

Pensacola Modeleers

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rebelreenactor

Member since
October 2003
From: Clovis, Calif

Posted by rebelreenactor on Friday, August 20, 2004 5:22 PM

heres a pic, the 2 back wheels are turned, or so it looks

that the only one I could find, and even it is barely turning.

John

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Foster7155

Member since
July 2003
From: Pensacola, FL

Posted by Foster7155 on Friday, August 20, 2004 5:43 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by rebelreenactor

heres a pic, the 2 back wheels are turned, or so it looks

that the only one I could find, and even it is barely turning.

Thanks for the quick reply rebel,

That's the one picture I already have. I'm really looking for a picture of one in a hard turn, but it may be futile.

Enjoy your modeling...

Robert Foster

Pensacola Modeleers

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Rob Gronovius

Member since
December 2002
From: Fort Knox

Posted by Rob Gronovius on Friday, August 20, 2004 8:21 PM

There was a second driver who would operate the vehicle in reverse. The rear position would turn the rear wheels.

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 20, 2004 8:24 PM

i have seen a picture of one with all 8 wheels turned, i'll see if i can find it again.

found it, it is the one at jagdtiger.de http://www.jagdtiger.de/GermanTanks/SdKfz231-01.htm
i hope this helps

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Spamicus

Member since
April 2003
From: Central Wisconsin

Posted by Spamicus on Friday, August 20, 2004 10:44 PM

Try a search for the Spahpanzer 2 Luchs, it's modern 8 wheeler and I've seen many photos of it turning, almost like they're showing it off. I've got an old Areo armor-series book with several photos of it turning. I'd guess it's not all that different from the WWII 8 wheelers. As far as turning is concerned anyway.

Steve

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wbill76

Member since
July 2004
From: Texas

Posted by wbill76 on Friday, August 20, 2004 11:19 PM

Probably one of the reasons you don't see them turning often in photos is that they were horribly unstable on the horizontal axis because of their narrow wheel base (think Explorer on stilts). Turns had to be made very slowly or they ran the risk of tipping. All 8 wheels were steerable and as Rob mentions, had two sets of steering gear front and back so reversing was very quick and easy to do, no turning required.

BP Models

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Foster7155

Member since
July 2003
From: Pensacola, FL

Posted by Foster7155 on Friday, August 20, 2004 11:38 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by t3488g

i have seen a picture of one with all 8 wheels turned, i'll see if i can find it again.

found it, it is the one at jagdtiger.de
i hope this helps

t3488g,

Perfect...well pretty close to perfect, but I definitely take it!

Thanks a bunch,

Robert Foster

Pensacola Modeleers

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, August 21, 2004 7:49 PM

heres a photo i took at Bovington, and those kind peaple down there left the wheels turned, it used the same type of steering as the earlier armoured cars

ive got more photos of it, i'll have to have a look for them

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Foster7155

Member since
July 2003
From: Pensacola, FL

Posted by Foster7155 on Saturday, August 21, 2004 8:30 PM

Thanks CC,

I appreciate the effort.

Enjoy your modeling...

Robert Foster

Pensacola Modeleers

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