SEARCH FINESCALE.COM

Enter keywords or a search phrase below:

I want to build an Elefant

1275 views
20 replies
1 rating 2 rating 3 rating 4 rating 5 rating
  • Member since
    November 2005
I want to build an Elefant
Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 23, 2004 2:35 PM
Hello,

What kit and AM parts would you recommend for an Elephant or Ferdinand build? Dragon Dead [xx(], Italeri Angry [:(!], or what else??

Thanks,

Ted
  • Member since
    November 2005
Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 23, 2004 2:43 PM
you should get a Dragons latest Elephant or Ferdinand, and maybe the Frui model tracks for it and maybe the Eduard or Aber Photo etch

keep us posted on the build
  • Member since
    November 2005
Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 23, 2004 2:44 PM
Get the Dragon kit with the Friul tracks. The kit is so good that you really don’t need anything more. Of coarse if you really want to replace all the clamps and whatnot, you could get the Aber PE set too.

Good luckBig Smile [:D]
  • Member since
    December 2002
  • From: PA
Posted by JWest21 on Monday, August 23, 2004 2:46 PM
Yeah, I say go with the Dragon kit. Their new stuff is really nice
Jason "There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." -D. Barry
  • Member since
    November 2005
Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 23, 2004 2:51 PM
So what's the difference (without researching, I'm not being lazy, just at work) between the ferdinand and the elefant?

Ted
  • Member since
    November 2005
Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 23, 2004 2:53 PM
Go with the Dragon kit. The Italeri from what I understand is old and lacking detail. I have both of Dragons Elefant and Ferdinand kits and from what I have seen in the box, they are beautiful. If you need some pix of an elefant, look further in the armor pages and you will see pix I have posted of an Elefant.
  • Member since
    November 2005
Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 23, 2004 2:54 PM
one was the first one without a hull machine gun and the other had the machine gun added on the hull becouse of Kursk
  • Member since
    December 2002
  • From: Fort Knox
Posted by Rob Gronovius on Monday, August 23, 2004 2:58 PM
Ferdinand was the initial variant produced by Dr. F. Porsche. When it went into combat, the Germans discovered several deficiencies. The vehicle was then modified and renamed the Elefant. Some of the modifications they did were to add a hull machine gun and a commander's cupola.
  • Member since
    November 2005
Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 23, 2004 3:12 PM
Has there ever been a group build of this model?

I am going to research the thing sometime soon and see what I want to do. I have wanted to build this model for about 12 years, since I read Shep Paine's book with his Italeri kit in a dio. Really cool tank. I atempted to build one, but messed up the zim and through it away.

Ted
  • Member since
    November 2005
Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 23, 2004 3:14 PM
Sorry, thanks for all the info. This is the best forum I have seen. Very nice people here and always willing to help. Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]
  • Member since
    November 2005
Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 23, 2004 3:16 PM
im sure there be a group build with it in
theres a group build when theres only 2 peaple in it now

there are resin zimerrit sets out for them too
  • Member since
    November 2005
Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 23, 2004 4:47 PM
GO with the Dragon kit it is a relly good kit, I just built it.
  • Member since
    January 2003
  • From: Utah - USA
Posted by wipw on Monday, August 23, 2004 5:11 PM
I used Jaguar's Elefant tracks on mine. Terrific tracks. The ones that come with the Dragon kit are actually pretty nice. No ejector pin marks on the tracks. but they molded the cleat on the treads pointing the wrong way! The Jag's were cheep, easy to build and look terrific. They were originally made for the Italeri kit, but are a perfect fit on the Dragon. They (Jaguar) also made an interior kit for the Italeri that's supposed to be a drop in fit, but I've never been able to find one.
Good luck.
Bill ========================================================== DML M4A2 Red Army ========================================================== ========================================================== -- There is a fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness". (Author unknown)
  • Member since
    November 2005
Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 23, 2004 5:15 PM
Dragon kit, Aber fenders (AWSOME) and Fruil tracks... you have a weiner...
  • Member since
    November 2005
Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 23, 2004 5:25 PM
Just wanted to mention the BIG difference between the Ferdi and Elefant, is the zim. The Ferdi did not have zim while the Elefant did. As mentioned before, the Elefant had a machinegun and cupola added along with new tracks. So, basically if you don’t want to bother with the zim, get the Ferdi.

Someone mentioned the Aber fenders. I would not get the Aber fenders unless you plan on bending them. The kit fenders are quite adequate and Aber does not include the full fender in its kit. You also have to purchase the Aber PE for the Ferdi to get the folding mud flaps.
  • Member since
    July 2003
  • From: Philippines
Posted by Dwight Ta-ala on Monday, August 23, 2004 7:10 PM
This is an interesting thread. Especially when I am also planning of doing an Elefant for an Anzio Build in another forum. Thanks for the info, guys.

Ted, maybe we can have a GB of our own on this one.

  • Member since
    March 2003
  • From: Rain USA, Vancouver WA
Posted by tigerman on Monday, August 23, 2004 7:19 PM
i believe Cavalier makes a zim set for the Elefant. If you started a build next year, I might commit to one, but not right now.

   http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/wing_nut_5o/PANZERJAGERGB.jpg

 Eric 

  • Member since
    November 2005
Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 23, 2004 7:26 PM
I wouldn't be able to start until next year either. Who knows.

I did read up on the beast this evening. 80 some Ferdinands were built and the 43 of them were outfitted with the cupola and the fron machine gun, amonst a few other things. they were apparently troublesome beasts.

Ted

  • Member since
    March 2003
  • From: Rain USA, Vancouver WA
Posted by tigerman on Monday, August 23, 2004 7:36 PM
From what I can gather about them, they lost about 30-37 (might not been that many) at Kursk and the rest more or less went to Italy after being modified. I think there were a few Berge-Ferdinands also.

   http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/wing_nut_5o/PANZERJAGERGB.jpg

 Eric 

  • Member since
    July 2004
  • From: Texas
Posted by matthew9 on Monday, August 23, 2004 7:58 PM
I've done the dragon Elefant. Drive sprocket's on both ends made indy tracks fun! When I put zimm on, protruding bolt's and brackett's really made it interesting. I did put on an AM barrel. Great kit- good experience. Just something to think about when choosing AM parts.My 2 cents [2c]
Matt
  • Member since
    January 2003
  • From: Utah - USA
Posted by wipw on Tuesday, August 24, 2004 3:49 PM
I forgot to mention, I put the Eduard zim set on mine. Fit pretty well over the bolts, etc., but lots of gaps between pieces at the edges. I also have the Eduard pe detail set and two sets of fenders for it. One was made for the Italeri and doesn't fit well at all, the other is the Aver set and is a royal pain.
Bill ========================================================== DML M4A2 Red Army ========================================================== ========================================================== -- There is a fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness". (Author unknown)
JOIN OUR COMMUNITY!

Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account.

SEARCH FORUMS
FREE NEWSLETTER
By signing up you may also receive reader surveys and occasional special offers. We do not sell, rent or trade our email lists. View our Privacy Policy.