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Look what the cat dragged in!

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, September 4, 2004 9:35 PM
Look Daddy, the tank is throwing up! Yuck [yuck]
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, September 4, 2004 9:30 PM
I would love to know the whole story behind this as well. Too bad History Channel wasn't on hand to capture this first hand.

The one photo that i find amazing is this one:


To me - i invision that is if i were actually there the moment right before it went 'into' the swamp some 60 years back. Really brings those old B&W photos from WW2 to life.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, September 4, 2004 9:14 PM
I wonder when Dragon or Trumpeter will make some new box art for us.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, September 4, 2004 6:48 PM
man what a find.
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Posted by gringe88 on Saturday, September 4, 2004 2:16 PM
that is AMAZING!! thnx for the pics man
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, September 4, 2004 6:50 AM
that is soooooooo cool. Cool [8D]Thumbs Up [tup]
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  • From: sunny imperial beach
Posted by yw18mc on Friday, September 3, 2004 9:39 PM
Incredible story. The pictures tell it all. Thanks for sharing this remarkable find with us. semper fi, mike
mike
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 3, 2004 8:54 PM
Makes one wonder how may other relics are reposing in remote bogs just waiting to be discovered. Now if someone would just find a Panther or Tiger!
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  • From: Texas
Posted by wbill76 on Friday, September 3, 2004 9:49 AM
After 50+ years submerged in a bog and it starts right up. Amazing!
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  • From: Northeast Washington State
Posted by JCon on Friday, September 3, 2004 12:32 AM
That is a truly amazing find and thanks for sharing it with us!
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 2, 2004 11:41 PM
Here is some more info and some more photos at the bottom of the page;
http://www.diving.ee/articles/art035.html

Be sure to check out the video clip of them starting the engine!
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  • From: NE Georgia
Posted by Keyworth on Thursday, September 2, 2004 11:24 PM
Fantastic find. Thanks for posting it for us.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 2, 2004 8:33 PM
Amazing I say! Ahh to be a Eastern European with a metal detector must be a wonderful lot indeed! I personally would give my left testicle to walk through those forests searching for history. Thanks for the pics!
Ryan
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Posted by rebelreenactor on Thursday, September 2, 2004 7:28 PM
Thats crazy! Its in german markings too. Wow. Thanks for the pics
John
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Posted by tigerman on Thursday, September 2, 2004 6:44 PM
Wonder how many Tigers might be in those? Or whatelse lays below.

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 Eric 

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Posted by wbill76 on Thursday, September 2, 2004 5:39 PM
Just goes to show you that there's still a lot of history out there waiting to be stumbled across at the right moment in time. Who knows how many countless other examples of different equipment might have met similar fates? Very nice find, thanks for posting the pics/links!
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  • From: Dallas
Posted by KINGTHAD on Thursday, September 2, 2004 4:23 PM
What a cool find, Thanks for the pics

Thad
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 2, 2004 4:07 PM
It would suck if they didn't do much with it for a while and it got covered in rust. It would be another thing ruined by man (and in this case built by man)
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Posted by stukabomb88 on Thursday, September 2, 2004 3:36 PM
that's incredible!!!
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 2, 2004 3:11 PM
If you look at the second to the last photo on the webpage, you can see at least one white stripe running diagonally through the Balkankreuz across the front of the hull.



My guess is that this is the remains of a rather sparse winter camouflage and the crew of this Wehrmacht employed T-34 mistakenly drove the vehicle across the snow covered, frozen bog, thinking it was just a meadow, and fell through the ice. I'm sure this happened countless times throughout the war, that is why we keep seeing folks dragging these beasts out of swamps. No one in there right mind would have driven a tank straight into a swamp if they could see it.
Peat bogs are remarkable for their ability to preserve things which has been dropped into them. The low oxygen levels, cold temperatures and reducing environment of peat bogs have lead to some spectacular finds of animal and human remains being recovered after centuries and even millennia of burial. The Iron Age Bog Man of the British Museum in London is a prime example. Skin, hair, fingernails, cloth, leather, even tattoos have been preserved. If the crew of this tank did not make it out alive, chances are they would still be preserved, albeit a lot worse for wear and tear, inside the vehicle. Notice the almost total lack of rust on this vehicle, an indication of the low oxygen, reducing environment that this tank has sat in for the last 60 odd years.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 2, 2004 2:08 PM
I think that most of the tank would be intact. Leather, and other fibers might be too far gone to use, but the basic vehicle would be fine. On the shot showing the left rear quarter, you can see how the sides of the tank have rusted on an internal weld line. Nothing that can't be fixed though. As far as owning one of these, they are available on the international market. Do a Google search for T-34 and militiary vehicle sales, and you should find someone who has one. Why not, after the guns are removed, it becomes nothing more than a large tractor. Legal both in Canada and the U.S.!
Gives a new meaning to the old jalopy in the garage! (HAHAHAHH!)

Rob Savage
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 2, 2004 1:51 PM
Since it was found in Estonia and is in German markings I wouldn't be surprised if it was abandoned
by the Germans and deliberately sunk in the bog (to prevent the Russians re-acquiring it!) during their hasty retreat from the Baltic area later
in the war. The Germans often used captured vehicles for security duties in occupied areas, I think.
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  • From: Belgium
Posted by DanCooper on Thursday, September 2, 2004 1:47 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by djmodels1999

Wonder if the crew was still in..?!


I've red they were and according to the article, the first thin they asked for was a schnapps. Smile [:)]

Tediam, judging by the pics on that site the area over there looks swampy-ish, that would explain the low O2 level, that's why sometimes they still find bodies of people who died centuries ago.

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  • From: Belgium
Posted by DanCooper on Thursday, September 2, 2004 1:38 PM
That must have been hell of a BIG cat !!!

Seriously I've tried to use Photoshop to make the slogan readable, but either it's too far gone, or my photoshopskills are by far not good enough.

Personally I think the problem is with my skills Smile [:)]

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 2, 2004 1:22 PM
nNow all we need to do is learn Russian.Tongue [:P]
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  • From: PA
Posted by mjohnson on Thursday, September 2, 2004 12:13 PM
It would be interesting to find out what happened to the Russian crew and German crew. Did the tank have a long and eventful service or did roll off the assembly line into battle into the mud? Just some of the questions that surround this tank.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 2, 2004 11:38 AM
I'm scared to see the cat that dragged that in! Wink [;)]
Nice find.
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  • From: Long Island
Posted by Moses on Thursday, September 2, 2004 11:34 AM
Isn't it finders keepers. The guy who found it, owns it right. The statute of limitations would have to be up by now, especially since it was stolen by the Germans in the first place Wink [;)] In all seriousness...I think that is awesome.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 2, 2004 10:56 AM
Amazing. I too wanna know how it was noticed, and why is it in german markings??
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