SEARCH FINESCALE.COM

Enter keywords or a search phrase below:

Drybrushing enamels for the first time

619 views
9 replies
1 rating 2 rating 3 rating 4 rating 5 rating
  • Member since
    November 2005
Drybrushing enamels for the first time
Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, September 11, 2004 1:42 PM
After working with Acrylics for quite a while now I decided to give enamels a fighting chance. The 250/1 I've had on the shelf for quite a while now seemed like a fitting candidate. The entire model was airbrushed with Model Master Enamel Afrika Braun '42, sprayed with future, decals applied, another coat of future on just the decals, washed with windsor and newton oils and now comes trouble. I lightened the Afrika Braun with a bit of white but when I try to drybrush, no matter how hard I try the paint just seems too thin. Im getting really nasty streaks. Running the brush against a paper towel until barely anything shows leaves me with nothing on the brush! Should my brush be soft or a bit stiffer? I am using a wide red sable brush at the moment. Thank you for the help guys. This particular model will be given to a local collector to be shown with his SS uniforms and weapons so I'd prefer not to mess it up.
Thank you
Ryan
  • Member since
    July 2003
  • From: Pensacola, FL
Posted by Foster7155 on Saturday, September 11, 2004 3:42 PM
Ryan,

I also work with MM enamels and dry brushing can be a bit trying...to say the least.

Here are some of my general techniques:

1) When you think that all the paint is off the brush, it's not. Granted, there's not much there, but you don't want very much at all on the brush. Trust me...when you think you've rubbed allt he paint out of the brush, run it across a few rivets or bolt heads and across the edge where two panels meet and paint will come off.

2) I use 3 or 4 very soft sable brushes between 1/8" and 1/2" wide when I dry brush.

3) In my experience, you can only apply paint to each brush 3 or 4 times (and brush off the extra paint on a paper towel) in a sitting before you will either have to clean the brush and let it dry or switch brushes. This is because the enamel paint with start to get "gummy" and will bind the bristles together or start to clump up.

4) Each time you apply paint to the brush and remove the excess, you only have about a minute to maybe a minute and a half to work.

5) Take your time. I will typically spend 2 or 3 sittings for a simple dry brushing project and up to 15 sittings for more complex projects. I've found that the slower I go - applying the absolute minimum paint in each sitting - the better the dry brushing looks.

6) No one masters dry brushing...they just get pretty good at it with years and years of practice. This is my personal belief and it works for me.

Hope some of this helps,

Enjoy your modeling...

Robert Foster

Pensacola Modeleers

  • Member since
    November 2005
Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, September 11, 2004 4:08 PM
Thank you sir for the advice. I will now retire to my desk and put these suggestions to work. I guess I should turn the patience up a notch or three. Hooo-ra!
Ryan
  • Member since
    April 2004
  • From: sunny imperial beach
Posted by yw18mc on Saturday, September 11, 2004 4:29 PM
It really sounds like Robert has got a pretty good handle on drybrush techniques Ryan. Both of us will benifit from his suggestion. Good question and great answer. thanks to both. semper fi, mike
mike
  • Member since
    July 2004
  • From: ...Ask the other guy, he's got me zeroed-in...
Posted by gringe88 on Saturday, September 11, 2004 5:19 PM
I've painted and dryvrushed with MM for a time now, and I haven't really had that much trouble with 'em. just gotta be careful about amounts of thinner and pigment u use. sorry to hear about yur troubles though...
====================================== -Matt
  • Member since
    April 2003
  • From: Central Wisconsin
Posted by Spamicus on Saturday, September 11, 2004 7:57 PM
Ryan,
You may want to try laying a flat clear coat over your kit before you dry brush, Once that's done then go with Robert's technique, all should be well.

Steve

  • Member since
    July 2003
  • From: Pensacola, FL
Posted by Foster7155 on Saturday, September 11, 2004 8:10 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Spamicus

Ryan,
You may want to try laying a flat clear coat over your kit before you dry brush, Once that's done then go with Robert's technique, all should be well.


Great Catch!!!

I didn't even notice that when I read the post...duh!

Ryan, Spamicus is 100% correct. [Make this Rule 3b on my list] Always dry brush over a flat finish...otherwise your paint has nothing to "grab onto".

Enjoy your modeling...

Robert Foster

Pensacola Modeleers

  • Member since
    July 2004
  • From: Texas
Posted by wbill76 on Saturday, September 11, 2004 9:05 PM
Some great pointers on how to drybrush. I always use sable brushes for this and have varying size and thickness depending on what I'm tryint to accomplish. I don't use thinned paint but rather paint from the bottle, using the bottle edge to remove as much paint as possible then wiping the brush itself with a cloth I use for this purpose. I also have a bottle of enamel brush cleaner to hand to prevent the clumping that Foster describes.

Dry-brushing is definitely an exercise in patience. Each time you dip and clean the brush, varying amounts of paint stay behind, so that first stroke can also give varied results. I use extra sprue to take that first stroke and then either wipe the brush again or hit the area I'm working on and that seems to regularize the results a bit more.

  • Member since
    November 2005
Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, September 11, 2004 9:27 PM
Great advice guys! I appreciate your help. It makes total sense. I'll be up late tonight experimenting.
Ryan
  • Member since
    May 2003
  • From: Central USA
Posted by qmiester on Sunday, September 12, 2004 10:02 AM
Robert has given the best advice you will probably receive on this subject. But I would add (or expand upon his advice) a couple of items that I consider critical to getting a good to excellent finished product.

1. Patience - As Robert mentions go slow and take your time - it pays in the long run. Also when you reach the stage that you feel that just a little more will make it perfect - Stop! You are going to find that 99% of the time if you continue the finished product doesn't have that subtle look you were looking for, rather an excessive weathered look.

2. Practice - Weathering (which is what you're doing) is a learned skill. And as with any learned skill, if you don't do it on a regular basis, you are going to forget how to do it properly. (40 years ago the Army tought me how to send and recieve morse code at up to 60 words per minute - and I was good at it - could I do it today? - no way). I keep a few models around that I either screwed up during building or the origional kit wasn't worth building as a display model and use them for trying new techniques or practicing old techniques so I won't screw up the current project. So if I'm going to do a technique I haven't done in a month or more, I practice it on them until I'm satisfied that I probably won't screw up my project with them. (Which allows me to find or create new and more innovative ways to screw up)
Quincy
JOIN OUR COMMUNITY!

Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account.

SEARCH FORUMS
FREE NEWSLETTER
By signing up you may also receive reader surveys and occasional special offers. We do not sell, rent or trade our email lists. View our Privacy Policy.