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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, May 9, 2003 11:51 AM
My cousin is a mechanic in the Canadian army, and i have talked to him about this very subject. He has worked on our C1 Leopard tanks. He says that the constant movement of the vehicles treads keeps them scraped clean of rust. So, i would say don't worry about pastel rust or the iron oxide, just dry brush and wash the tracks.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, May 9, 2003 10:34 AM
Mike!

Yeah, you weren't kidding! I've posted a couple more questions in different groups, and even through in my two cents for a couple of other folks' questions, and am honetly amazed! Even went and picked up the last two issues of FSM from Space Coast Hobbies. I'm really impressed!
Thanks for the info!

Carlos
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Posted by renarts on Thursday, May 8, 2003 11:53 PM
Hey Carlos, glad you made it.
Depending on the vehicle...
I prime then paint them a dark grey. I then apply a black wash. Once this is dry then I dry brush a lighter color, then drybrush model master steel, hit the areas with pastels (black and white with some orange for rust then pick out highlights with silver.
Any rubber pads I treat like I would tires.

I told you this forum was a well of talent and knowledge. These guys are some of the most knowledgeable, friendly and talented I've run across. But you also get the advantage of tapping an international talent pool.

See ya at the meetings,
Mike
Mike "Imagination is the dye that colors our lives" Marcus Aurellius A good friend will come and bail you out of jail...but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn...that was fun!"
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Posted by shermanfreak on Thursday, May 1, 2003 8:08 PM
Another method Carlos is as follows:
1 - base coat for metal tracks I use Model Master Acrylic Gun Metal
2 - heavy dry brush of Model Master Acrylic Rust
3 - light dry brush of Model Master Acrylic Steel
4 - burnish entire track with ground pencil lead (use your fingertip and don't be shy)
5 - final weathering with pastel chalks with the rest of the armour kit.

Like Kenneth said in his post .... there are many different ways. Find one that suits you best.
Happy Modelling and God Bless Robert
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, May 1, 2003 11:45 AM
Thanks!
That Iron Oxide actually sounds like a great idea, just gotta go get some now! (I also have just the brush in mind...)
I was thinkin about the finish just after I posted the question and decided to go with a semi-gloss/more-on-the-flat-side (did that make sense?) finish. We shall see how it comes out....

Thanks again,

Carlos
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, May 1, 2003 10:11 AM
Aw Nuts....Angry [:(!]

That line at the bottom was supposed to be up there with the Iron Oxide stuff!
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, May 1, 2003 10:05 AM
cferrero

Welcome to the treadhead world!

As far as tracks go there are many many many ways to get specific looks and everyone has there own way for the most part. Personally I start with a simple coat of flat black or dark brown. Then I have a canister of Iron Oxide pottery glaze that I apply to the tracks with a brush then polish them till it looks good. (This product makes the paint into more or less steel as it is finely ground rust) After this seal the powder with a coat of clear flat acrylic (I use Gunze brand) Wash the tracks with various shades of dark brown and tan oils. Add some mud to the tracks or leave them clean for a road marched vehicle. Last step is to take a soft pencil and highlight the guide horns and the contact surfaces of the tracks. Now obviously for tracks with rubber blocks you would only treat the steel like this, the rubber portion gets the same oil washes and mud just not the oxide or pencil. If your tank has been running on pavement drybrush the contact points of the treat with a slightly darker gray, but not black as these get scuffed pretty clean on pavement.

As for the decals, I undercoat with just Model master clear gloss acrylic....decal then overcoat with a mix of the Gunze flat and MM Clear gloss. I mix them about 60-40 heavy on the flat. I don't like to have a dead flat paint. Also right after decaling I like to go back and "fade" in the decals with a VERY light overspray of the base color.

I hope this helps a little ....like I said this is just my way..there are countless techniques. Just experiment a little.

Good luck on that MLRS

Kenneth





(Do have a special brush that is used for nothing else for this product, it stains the brush for life)

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Tread Wear and such
Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, May 1, 2003 7:38 AM
Greetings,
I'm new to the whole modern armor scene and have a couple of questions.
1. How the heck do you get realistic looking tracks?(weathered, not abused)
2. How do you get the decals to adhere to the flat surface of the paint? (on that quetion I know I could use some Future Floor Wax, but then after shooting some dullcoat over the top would there be a semi-gloss finish left over?--If so, how do I get rid of it?)
The project is a DML Nato MLRS.
I've been building cars and occasional sci-fi kits for years, but armor is a new gig for me. Usually if it isn't glossy I won't go near it. Can anyone help?Question [?]
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