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A new Tiger I kit!!!
Posted by zokissima on Friday, October 1, 2004 11:51 AM
AFV have just revealed a secret item they will be manufacturing soon, and guess what: It's a new Tiger I, all new kit, latest tooling techniques, photoetch, and new research into the Tiger itself.
I heard it from PMMS:
http://www.perthmilitarymodelling.com/newkitnews/newf.htm
look at the AFV link, but I"m sure that there are even more sources of this out there somewhere.
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Posted by djmodels1999 on Friday, October 1, 2004 12:25 PM
Nice, very nice.. But what about something a bit different! A Char B1bis for instance...
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, October 1, 2004 1:28 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by djmodels1999

Nice, very nice.. But what about something a bit different! A Char B1bis for instance...


We simply have to live with the fact that German WWII heavy panzers will always get the first dibbs on release schedules.

Once a year or so they get tired of German stuff and give us something interesting.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, October 1, 2004 1:45 PM
I need some RUSSIANS!Big Smile [:D]Big Smile [:D] Both in WWII dress (not only ones shooting but ones fiddling with an armoured vehicle, etc) and modern ones doing both. I have plans for doing some Russian Armour for the year 2005, and I have no figures to go with it. As far as this kit of the Tiger, it looks great, but I hope they have fixed the inaccuracies of the other tiger kits out there, the ones with a full interior. I have one (Academy) that I have had to re-do (Mid production) and I have worked on it for about 4 1/2 years now, mainly due to the turrent being incorrect inside, among other things. This kit also has problems with not included parts (wooden flip-up screen for the fuel tanks next to radiator) and important parts not included at all (See the Tiger at Vitmouters (SP?) for the turrent mantlet splash strips and the MISSING weld seam across the top of the turrent at the point where it angles down to the mantlet top)
I hope that they have not relied on the Tiger at Bovington, as this is a early production, and is different in some important respects than a mid to late production vehicle.
Time will see, but of course, this kit will be on the back-burner until 2006 or 2007 for me, as I have scheduled this build time for modern armour/Russian armour.

Rob Savage
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, October 1, 2004 1:51 PM
More German stuff , thats so 1990. LOL , I am just frustrated w/ all the German stuff out there especially the Tiger , don't get me wrong it was an excellent piece of work in its day but the companies have pounded it in the ground, and made it a rather boring an unoriginal subject to build, the same trend is not only with the Tiger its with other tanks as well such as the Abrams, Lets protest for something different especially from a company like AFV. If I am going to pay 45 bucks for an AFV model it better be something that no one else makes.
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Posted by JWest21 on Friday, October 1, 2004 2:14 PM
Am I the only one who is excited??? I wished they'd throw in some zimmerit, though
Jason "There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." -D. Barry
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Posted by Foster7155 on Friday, October 1, 2004 3:32 PM
To be honest, I wouldn't care if there were no more Tigers released for the next 5 years. There are currently over 7 Tiger I kits in 1/35 scale available on the market and that seems like quite enough for even the most die-hard Tiger fanatic.

The list of subjects NOT available in 1/35 is extremely long and tops on my list are accurate M2 and M3 US Halftracks as well as all their varients. There are also a gazillion US guns that have not been produced, numerous allied tanks - such as the Char mentioned above, and additional German, Japanese, Italian, Hungarian, and Czech subjects that no one has produced.

"Variety is the spice of life."

Instead of trying to out do Tamiya's or Academy's excellent Tiger I kits, AFV should have done something new and innovative. I guess they would rather stick with a "safe" subject and for me, this is extremely discouraging.

Enjoy your modeling...

Robert Foster

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Posted by tigerman on Friday, October 1, 2004 5:48 PM
I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'm with the majority here. It's time for something different. I'm still waiting for a decent Valentine or BT-7 from one of the major players. Yah, there are already enough Tigers. It won't be cheep either.

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, October 1, 2004 7:23 PM
Well, Im excited too Jason.

I have built the Italeri Tiger 1, and two of the Tamiya Tiger 1s. I am currently stuck in the middle of a Tamiya Tiger 1 and I have the Academy Tiger 1 waiting to be built. I will be building many more Tigers too, including the new AFV Club one. I cant wait!!!
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Posted by JWest21 on Friday, October 1, 2004 7:30 PM
I was starting to think I was missing something, what with all the negative reaction! I was always a fan of th Tiger, so I definitely will be buying one. I like that they are throwing in extras too
Jason "There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." -D. Barry
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, October 1, 2004 7:51 PM
I too am kinda excited about the new offering. But then again I am soooo 1990Big Smile [:D]Big Smile [:D]
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Posted by JWest21 on Friday, October 1, 2004 7:53 PM
Break out the flannel,baby! I will break out the college CD collection for the Tiger build!
Jason "There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." -D. Barry
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, October 1, 2004 7:58 PM
Please let Pearl Jam be in the collection
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Posted by Dwight Ta-ala on Friday, October 1, 2004 7:59 PM
It is good to see a more accurate kit every year especially for a very popular subject like the Tiger 1. Even Tamiya has just recently released a Tiger I late version with metal barrel and tracks and lots of PE which seems to be very good (to say the least).

While this will definitely excite the german (or Tiger 1) tanks fans and definitely news such as this is very much welcome, I can only hope that kits of other subjects will be given attention by the manufacturers.

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Posted by JWest21 on Friday, October 1, 2004 8:05 PM
A lot of it boils down to "What sells" . Sure, the hard core modellers would buy an off the wall subject, but would the casual modeller? Ask anyone to name a tank from WWII and you will get Tiger, Panther and Sherman.
Jason "There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." -D. Barry
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Posted by Dwight Ta-ala on Friday, October 1, 2004 8:33 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by JWest21

A lot of it boils down to "What sells" . Sure, the hard core modellers would buy an off the wall subject, but would the casual modeller? Ask anyone to name a tank from WWII and you will get Tiger, Panther and Sherman.


Very true!Wink [;)]

But there are many good subjects out there that remain to be without a kit that it would be impossible for us to know if they will sell or not (simply because the manufacturers are seem to afraid to take the risk.)

Maybe the big manufacturers should conduct a world-wide survey among modelers to really get the feel of what the market wants.Smile [:)]

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Posted by tigerman on Friday, October 1, 2004 9:07 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Dwight Ta-ala
Maybe the big manufacturers should conduct a world-wide survey among modelers to really get the feel of what the market wants.Smile [:)]


I'm pretty sure that is already the case with some popular mags. They don't always listen. I would like to know what makes their top brass pick the subjects they do. Then I'd like to shake the hands that run Dragon Models.

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Posted by zokissima on Wednesday, October 6, 2004 12:30 PM
Wow, I'm surprised at the replies I got here for this, but I have to go with the major consensus. Even though it is a pretty major release from AFV, I really could care less, as there are so many other vehicles out there that deserve to be made into kits, yet are getting completely overlooked.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 6, 2004 4:42 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by JWest21

A lot of it boils down to "What sells" . Sure, the hard core modellers would buy an off the wall subject, but would the casual modeller? Ask anyone to name a tank from WWII and you will get Tiger, Panther and Sherman.


So then where are all the Sherman kits?

And releasing another Tiger isn't necessarily going to increase your sales. There are eighty-seven million different Tiger kits to choose from. Do a decent Char B and you've done basically the only Char B in the galaxy (though I'm sure Heller does one, they don't count. Tongue [:P]).

Seems to me that Asian model manufacturers are more than a little obsessed with the German panzers, to an almost unhealthy extent. I mean, even more so than Western modelers. Maybe it's overcompensation for the little weenie tanks the Japanese made in WWII. Wink [;)]

I mean, we have a Tiger kit for an individual tank ace -- Otto Carius -- and a kit of the Sturmtiger, for God's sake, but we don't have one completely accurate Sherman kit from Tamiya. Angry [:(!]
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Posted by JWest21 on Wednesday, October 6, 2004 4:49 PM

"So then where are all the Sherman kits?

And releasing another Tiger isn't necessarily going to increase your sales. There are eighty-seven million different Tiger kits to choose from. Do a decent Char B and you've done basically the only Char B in the galaxy (though I'm sure Heller does one, they don't count. Tongue [:P]).

Seems to me that Asian model manufacturers are more than a little obsessed with the German panzers, to an almost unhealthy extent. I mean, even more so than Western modelers. Maybe it's overcompensation for the little weenie tanks the Japanese made in WWII. Wink [;)]

I mean, we have a Tiger kit for an individual tank ace -- Otto Carius -- and a kit of the Sturmtiger, for God's sake, but we don't have one completely accurate Sherman kit from Tamiya. Angry [:(!]"


There are mutiple variants of the Sherman from Academy, Italeri, and Tamiya (accurate or not) plus Dragon is releasing and re-releasing a bunch of Shermans

As for your weenie tank compensation theory, you may be on to something.
Jason "There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." -D. Barry
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 6, 2004 5:02 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by JWest21

There are mutiple variants of the Sherman from Academy, Italeri, and Tamiya (accurate or not) plus Dragon is releasing and re-releasing a bunch of Shermans


Accuracy counts. Many of the Sherman kits out are old and inaccurate. There may be a few accurate Sherman kits out there, but they are buried by the mound of Tigers and Panthers and Elephants all all that.

In any event, there are only a handful of decent Sherman kits. Tamiya, the leading manufactuere, doesn't make a single Sherman that is fairly accurate right out of the box. Meanwhile they make about fifteen different Tiger kits. There really isn't any comparison between the availability of decent Sherman kits and the availability of decent Panzers.

It's really more than just name recognition. It's German name recognition.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 6, 2004 7:03 PM
german armour is far better thats just my opinion because thats all i model hehe
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 6, 2004 7:03 PM
I really hate walking into my LHS and asking whats new, because I know the response will be, Dragon, Tamiya, and whoever else just released Schliterbahn , Baron Von Kissalot, Sturmshultz's Panzer. I am mostly a modern modeler, and there are so many vehicles that Asian companies have not even touched, most modern stuff consist of Abrams and T-55's oh well I guess this is what we get for winning the war.
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Posted by yw18mc on Wednesday, October 6, 2004 7:18 PM
The "Tiger I" is an excellent and well documented subject and I have yet to build one although I now have two in my stash. When I look at my collection that covers about 15years, I find that the more unusual and hard to find kits like my LVTP5A1, or my Panzerwerfer Auf Maultier, or my MKII Matilda amongst others have a tendency to catch the interest of people who have seen my collection. There are so many other not so infamous armor and artillery pieces that I would love to see come on the market. I think the surveys that FSM does every year is helping to convince manufactures that we as consumers would like to see more choice in the market place. Wouldn't it be nice if AFV would have put their energy into making a tracked tow vehicle for the beautiful 155MM artillery piece they produce? Semper fi, mike
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