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Pacific Sherman questions
Posted by JWest21 on Tuesday, October 19, 2004 8:09 PM
I have been forced against my will Wink [;)] into another build- the Pacific BB. I plan to build a Sherman, but had a couple of quickies:

My will be based in the Phillipines, so would the dirt/dust be a more reddish color than European type dust?

I can't seem to find a lot of photo reference, so was it common or rare for Shermans to have on tank stowage? I saw a couple pics and they didn't have any
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Posted by subfixer on Wednesday, October 20, 2004 9:18 AM
The dirt in the P.I. is red in some areas and brown to sandy in other areas. The volcanic soil and limestone are characteristics of Pacific Rim geology. I'd go for the red myself.

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Posted by diggeraone on Wednesday, October 20, 2004 11:46 AM
I would blend both colors for dirt in,so that when it got real muddy the red in places with an overall light dusting of a sandy color for the dusty areas.Digger
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Posted by tigerman on Wednesday, October 20, 2004 7:25 PM
This would be a question for Dwight.

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Posted by JWest21 on Wednesday, October 20, 2004 7:35 PM
Oh, Dwight?? Where are you???Tongue [:P]

I wonder about the stowage. There doesn't seem to be near as much Pacific info as there is European
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Posted by shrikes on Wednesday, October 20, 2004 8:24 PM
Hey, fellas! Dwight really would be the authority here, but if you need more info, i think there was a discussion about Shemans in the Philippines on my IPMS forum. Here's the Addy: http://ipmsphilippines.proboards32.com/index.cgi

feel free to post a question there. I think there's still one surviving WWII era Sherman up in Baguio... Big Smile [:D] Hope this helps.
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Posted by JWest21 on Wednesday, October 20, 2004 8:51 PM
Thanks Shrikes!!
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Posted by Dwight Ta-ala on Wednesday, October 20, 2004 9:19 PM
I am here!

OK as far as I know, tanks were mostly used within the central Luzon area except of course when MacArthur returned (known as the Leyte Landings)...twhere anks rolled from the beaches in that eastern Visayas area.

The central Luzon area was basically becoming a developed area at the time of the war since it is where Manila is and roads (dirt, gravel and concrete) have been constructed. While red to red brown clay is abundant, this type of material is not popular in road constructions because it is not so permeable and retains water for longer period. Usually soils with colors ranging from light to dark brown (from bassalt) are used because of better resistance to abbrasion and good permeability.

Being in construction, I can say that mostly the most common color for dirt will be light to dark brown. I really don't see much red to red brown soil in my projects within Central Luzon.

Here's a colored picture of a Sherman in action in Manila ( a future diorama project of mine) for reference.

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Posted by JWest21 on Wednesday, October 20, 2004 9:29 PM
What can I say? Perfectly detailed!! Thanks, man!! That Sherman picture you have would make a fantastic dio, too!
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Posted by Dwight Ta-ala on Wednesday, October 20, 2004 9:41 PM
No problem. Hope it helps.

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Posted by JWest21 on Wednesday, October 20, 2004 10:13 PM
Very much!
Jason "There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." -D. Barry
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Posted by shrikes on Wednesday, October 20, 2004 10:19 PM
Hey, Dwight! I remember that picture! It's fort santiago, isn't it? I wonder why I've never seen a dio of that. I suppose you're just the guy to do it! Big Smile [:D]
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Posted by Dwight Ta-ala on Wednesday, October 20, 2004 10:27 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by shrikes

Hey, Dwight! I remember that picture! It's fort santiago, isn't it? I wonder why I've never seen a dio of that. I suppose you're just the guy to do it! Big Smile [:D]


It was published in the Manila Bulletin some months back. I have been planning to do a dio but I can find time to visit fort santiago as I need the details of the fort entrance.Smile [:)]. Actually I was planning to built the dio as my entry to the nationals. Oops there goes my secret.Big Smile [:D]Big Smile [:D]Big Smile [:D]Big Smile [:D]

But I will definitely do the dio.

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