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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 9, 2004 12:20 PM
I read in your questions and answers section in the December 2004 issue you called the M-46 tank a Pershing. Now I could be wrong, but all my life it has been called a Patton. This goes back to 1961 when the first kit I ever built was the Aurora M-46 Patton tank. In fact, the Dragon kit is also called Patton on the box. This tank was an upgrade of the Pershing and as General George S. Patton Jr. had recently been killed in a car crash, the tank was named in honor of him. The name stayed with all subsequent Main battle tanks until the M-1 Abrams
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 9, 2004 12:30 PM
I've recently read that the M-60 was never officially named'Patton'.It's a similar topic,maybe this question could be answered too?
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Posted by grandadjohn on Tuesday, November 9, 2004 12:33 PM
Squadron books show it as the "Pershing"
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 9, 2004 12:36 PM
They tried to name the M-60 "Comanchee (?)", but the common name was still Patton. Most reference sources now list it as part of the Patton family. I served as a platoon leader from 76-79 on the A-1 version and that is what we called them.
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Posted by Cobrahistorian on Tuesday, November 9, 2004 12:52 PM
Nope, the M-46 was NEVER the Pershing. The WWII and Korea-vintage M-26 was the Pershing. AFAIK, the M-46 thru 60 series were called "Patton" as the designs basically just built upon the previous model until armor was revolutionized with the Abrams.

Seems like every time we try to name something "Comanche" it either gets cancelled or it develops a different name!
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Posted by ABARNE on Tuesday, November 9, 2004 2:35 PM
Although I don't have my references handy, I thought that I had read that the M-46 was basically a remanufactured M-26 instead of a new tank based on the previous one. Additionally at the Amazon link below, one can purchase a a book by Stephen Zaloga titled M26/M46 Pershing Tank 1943-53. I'm not absolutely sure whether Pershing is the official name for the M-46 or not, however, the mistake, if any, seems to have been an honest one.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1841762024/qid=1100031964/sr=8-13/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i13_xgl14/002-9318822-2405614?v=glance&s=books&n=507846
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Posted by loneeagle48 on Tuesday, November 9, 2004 7:44 PM
The Patton name did not come to use till the M-47 tank was delevoped in the late 50's. The hull and turrent were changed to a differant design then. Thats my 2cents worth that I have read. But that could be wrong too. **********Stephen*********
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Posted by ABARNE on Wednesday, November 10, 2004 2:29 PM
I checked further last night, and according Foss's Encyclopedia of Tanks and Armored Fighting Vehicles, the M-46 was known unofficially as both the Pershing and the Patton. Foss did not specifiy when the names came into use. Given that the M-46 is a souped up M-26, the use of the Pershing name is very understandable. Since the later M-48's were so similar, it is also understandable how coldiers might refer to the earlier M-46's as Pattons.
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