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How many tank treads per side?
Posted by Bionator on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 2:32 PM
How many tank treads per side on a Panther Ausf A, D, G? Same for Tiger I and II, Jagdtiger and Marder III. I sthere a reference site for this info?
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 2:56 PM
Good question. But I don't feel like going out to the museum here on A.P.G and counting each track on each vehicle. Bryan
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 4:21 PM
Here is a good site. On the left, pick your tank and read the specifics http://www.onwar.com/tanks/germany/tfbrummbar.htm


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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 4:23 PM
For the Panther it's about 85 or 87 links per side.
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Posted by J-Hulk on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 5:00 PM
Welcome to FSM, Bionator!
Seems like the previous posters have you taken care of.

Just for your reference, a 'tread" or "track" is an entire assembly of links. Therefore, the actual answer to your question "How many tank treads per side" would be "One tread per side." Treads are composed of links. So, according to Eastern Tiger, there would be 85 to 87 links per tread for the Panther.
Just so you know!
Good luck on your build, and keep us posted with your progress.
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Posted by Bionator on Wednesday, April 13, 2005 10:24 PM
Thanks for tips. ModelKasten states 95 links/side for Tiger 1. I have read 98-100/side in other sources for Tiger 1.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, April 13, 2005 10:33 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Bionator

How many tank treads per side on a Panther Ausf A, D, G? Same for Tiger I and II, Jagdtiger and Marder III.


Most tanks have, as a general rule, one tread per side.

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Posted by TMN1 on Thursday, April 14, 2005 1:00 PM
The Tiger I used 96 links per track. They were 725 mm wide and had a pitch of 130 mm, the Tiger I had a ground load of 1.11 Kg per square centimeter.

The Tiger II had 3 types of combat tracks. Both the Gg24/800/300 and the Gg26/800/300 tracks had 46 double links per track, this makes for a total of 92 links per track.
The later single linked tracks Kgs73/800/152 had 92 links per track.
All 3 types gave the tank a ground load of 1.02 Kg per square centimeter.
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Posted by T_Terrific on Thursday, April 14, 2005 1:53 PM
QUOTE:
Most tanks have, as a general rule, one tread per side.

Smile [:)]


I am not aware of more then one tread per side on any German tanks.

The only tank I have seen with two treads per sie is a Russian monster at the Patton Museum.


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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, April 14, 2005 2:44 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by T_Terrific
I am not aware of more then one tread per side on any German tanks.

The only tank I have seen with two treads per sie is a Russian monster at the Patton Museum.


I think there's some British heavy tank, or maybe even one of those American monsters, from the end of WWII that had double treads per side, isn't there?
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Posted by Bionator on Thursday, April 14, 2005 4:35 PM
Onwar.com is a great site. Has all stats I need. Thanks for the tip.
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Posted by T_Terrific on Thursday, April 14, 2005 4:47 PM
QUOTE:

I think there's some British heavy tank, or maybe even one of those American monsters, from the end of WWII that had double treads per side, isn't there?


I dunno, but the late Shermans had very wide tracks near the war's end, which could possibly look like a "double".

The only "American Monster" I am aware of at the end of WWII is the M-26 Pershing, and it had single, but very wide treads also.

Now, I wouldn't put ANYTHING pas the British Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, April 14, 2005 4:53 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by T_Terrific

The only "American Monster" I am aware of at the end of WWII is the M-26 Pershing, and it had single, but very wide treads also.



Ok, it turns out to have been American -- the T28 superheavy tank. This 95-ton behemoth had two sets of treads on each side of the vehicle. 12" of armour in front of its low, sloped hull, and a 105mm gun. It would have eaten King Tigers for breakfast, and would have made a worthy opponent for the Maus and E-100 types -- even though it was lighter than either German vehicle, the T28 had no turret, and massively thick armor, and the US had developed some very advanced AP rounds by 1945 (advanced for the time, that is).

It was the largest tank ever produced in the USA. ("Tank" -- it had no turret.) The one that was produced is apparently at the Patton Museum.

The British made a tank like this one, called the Tortoise, which was finished in around '47, I think. They may even have deployed a few. (Anyone know?) We scrapped the T28 project when the war ended and we had the Bomb (no more wars with such a trump card, right?Tongue [:P]).
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, April 14, 2005 5:09 PM
the AFVs with Two track each side are the American T28 and the British/American heavy at bovington (forgot the name at the moment but its tracks were made up of 2 sets of sherman tracks and it was going to replace the churchill)
then theres the Object 279 (1957) Troyanov super- heavy tank with double treads at Kubinka
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, April 14, 2005 11:07 PM
The outer set of tread assemblies on the T28 (also T95 gmc) could be removed for rail shipment or when the tank was used on a hard surface. The extra tread assemblies could be joind together to form a trailer that was towed by the tank.My 2 cents [2c] My reference calls these tread assemblies "track assemblies" so which is the correct nominclature?Dunce [D)]
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Posted by TMN1 on Thursday, April 14, 2005 11:28 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Bionator

Onwar.com is a great site. Has all stats I need. Thanks for the tip.


Yeah but it says that the Tiger II had 96 links per track and that is not correct, it had 92.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, April 15, 2005 7:52 PM
QUOTE: ]Yeah but it says that the Tiger II had 96 links per track and that is not correct, it had 92.


Wasn't it the Tiger I that had 96?
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Posted by armourguy on Thursday, April 28, 2005 7:29 PM
Interesting subject that T28. I'm currently building in 1/6th scale the T-28. I believe that the british Super heavy tank at Boviongton is called the Tortoise.





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Posted by Tojo72 on Friday, July 21, 2023 3:42 PM

Anonymous
For the Panther it's about 85 or 87 links per side.
 

Thank you,always good to have a starting point.

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Posted by ikar01 on Friday, July 21, 2023 8:00 PM

I was thinking one set per side.  

I couldn't even tell you how many individual ones were on the M-113 I used to drive in the Air Force.

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Posted by Real G on Saturday, July 22, 2023 1:05 AM

I believe the ultimate reply would be "as many as are needed".  Sometimes the kit might require more or less track links compared to the real thing, to establish the correct look (no sag, some sag, lots of sag).

Some tracks are tricky, like certain Tiger II tracks that have alternating links.  You have to have an even number of links to properly connect the ends.

That's why I like metal tracks for the "saggy" tanks.  The glue together plastic tracks can be a bit of a gamble to get everything looking right.

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Posted by Tojo72 on Saturday, July 22, 2023 4:09 AM

No,I believe it's still good to  have a starting point in mind,that's why I googled the question.The answer I found most was 85-87,so I will construct my run 1-2 links short,fix them to the tank,and see where I'm at,then add or subtract a link or two as needed.

So for someone to answer me by saying, "as much as needed",I would consider that answer as no help at all,I need a number to work with.Im aware of aii the reasons why an exact number may not be possible,especially when building a small plastic model.I like metal tracks too,but kit included MT's are a free  alternative that look good too when I'm done with them,and don't add $40-50 to every build that I do.

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Posted by Tojo72 on Saturday, July 22, 2023 4:12 AM

ikar01

I was thinking one set per side.  

I couldn't even tell you how many individual ones were on the M-113 I used to drive in the Air Force.

 

Yeah I kinda can't picture you crawling around your vehicle counting the links,saying to yourself this will help me in my model building. Big Smile

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Posted by EdGrune on Saturday, July 22, 2023 9:31 AM

ikar01

I was thinking one set per side.  

Or not

I give you the US T-28 Super Heavy Tank

 

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