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zimmerit/tamiya putty
Posted by Anonymous on Friday, June 20, 2003 6:08 AM
could anyone please tell me what 2 do with the putty do i add anything or put it on as is. it didn,t say anything on the box it came in ....thanx.........!!!! Blush [:I]
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Posted by Build22 on Friday, June 20, 2003 6:11 AM
Read the post next to this one.
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Posted by Build22 on Friday, June 20, 2003 7:06 AM
If not try this:
http://www.track-link.net/articles/15
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Posted by Moses on Friday, June 20, 2003 11:21 AM
Hey bracks..I put a thread up yesterday using Tamiya's Polyester Putty with Tamiya's Zimmerit Applicator..he is the link

http://www.finescale.com/fsm/community/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4218
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, June 23, 2003 2:25 AM
hey thanx 4 your help, by the way great work on your konigstiger !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted by Moses on Monday, June 23, 2003 10:51 AM
Thanks bracks, applying zimmerit is easier then some modelers think. The best way to do it is by practicing until you feel confident to do it on a kit. Try the Polyester Putty, the results are fantastic in my opinion.

Cheers

Rob
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Posted by BlackWolf3945 on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 12:14 PM
I did an old Tamiya Panther some time back and used good 'ole automotive spot putty and the trusty mini flathead screwdriver. That was f-u-n...o-t. Tongue [:P]

Actually, it was fun, just tedious. Didn't look too awful bad.


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Posted by Moses on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 1:05 PM
The Screwdriver method isn't bad, but I feel it works better with Epoxy Putty rather then a Squadron or Polyester Putty. In my opinion, the ScrewDriver method should only really be used on either King Tiger's, Tiger 1's, Elefants or Brummbar's.
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Posted by BlackWolf3945 on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 7:49 PM
HEY! Gimmee a break, I'm a nut for things with wings, not a track head! Wink [;)]Tongue [:P]

As far as the technique, it's all in who is applying said technique. I had very definite notions as to what I wanted to represent (alotta chipped and damaged zimmerit) and so the screwdriver was perfect for what I had in mind. Remember, just 'cuz it don't work for one doesn't mean that another cannot make it work!

Anyhoo, I patterned it partly after a Panther that I was able to crawl all over up in the Great White North. It was hatched on the lower hull sides, and the rear plate just had the stuff applied with no pattern whatsoever.

Not being one to trust museum pieces or restored vehicles, I called our armor guru (Bob Collignon) over to tell me if this was actually zimmerit on the back and, if so, if they often applied it that way. He seemed to think that it was possible, so that's how I did this Panther.

This example, typically, had no zimmerit up top. I did, however, choose to put some on my Panther, just for the hell of it. This thing was a testbed more than anything, and I wanted to try some things, especially zimmerit, before I proceeded on a "good" build.

Here's a couple shots of this example, you can't see the hatched stuff on the sides, it's in the areas of heavy shadow. But in the second shot you can see very clearly how it was applied to the rear plate.





I have a piece of zimmerit from that Panther on my workbench, and it's really weird, in a cool sorta way, to hold a miniscule piece of history in your hands...


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Posted by erush on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 9:58 PM
You mean you took a piece of zimmerit off that tank????[:0]

What if everyone took a piece off?? Then no one would get to see what it looked like on there. My dad used to tell me something like that when I'd throw rocks in a lake. What if everyone threw rocks in and filled up the lake??

NO MORE LAKEWink [;)]Big Smile [:D]

I'm just raggin' ya. I'd have a piece too if I'd been there and I'm sure you picked yours up off the ground...right?Big Smile [:D]Tongue [:P]

Eric
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Posted by erush on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 10:00 PM
Blackwolf, nice pics BTWBig Smile [:D]

Eric
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Posted by BlackWolf3945 on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 10:20 PM
I got ragged all day on that trip 'cuz I got a piece of the stuff off that Panther and from a Hetzer.

Actually, I simply ran my hand over the stuff and in each case a bit fell off, so naturally...

Okay, I cannot tell a lie! I took a hammer and chisel along so I could chip out zimmerit samples from all the tanks I saw!!! Tongue [:P]

And I'd do it again...


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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 6:45 AM
thankyou everyone for your help. but know i have another problem i am hopeing u can help me with if you don't mind. well the problem is i just finished painting my king tiger (ardennes) version(green,redbrown.darkyellow and the spots through it). before i applied the dots i attached the rest of the rigging(ropes axe ect) then applied the dots . To my absolute discust i had put to many dots but i was to late in realiseing.
I thought of paintying over with a brush but i'm pretty sure that will loose the airbrush affect.. HELP PLEASESad [:(]Sad [:(]Sad [:(]Sad [:(]
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Posted by Moses on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 9:31 AM
Bracks... if you are going for a dirty look, you can give the Tiger II a dusting coat of Tamiya Buff, or a Flat Earh/Buff mixture. This will blend the camo and dot pattern and make it less obvious. Just a suggestion then having to repaint the tank. Good luck

Cheers

Rob
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Posted by erush on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 9:33 AM
Bracks, I think about all you can do there is airbrush back over the dots with your basecoat, trying to avoid any of your detail pices that are already painted as much as possible. Then spray over those where you have to and go back with a fine detail brush to repaint the details. If you get a 3/0 - 5/0 brush you can do some pretty fine work with a steady hand. I know it stinks but that's all I can think of to do.Sad [:(]

Eric

edit: I was talking about just painting over some of the camo not the whole tank too.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 26, 2003 4:43 AM
thankyou all, you have all been a great help. i think i will use a bit of both of your suggestions on the last problem. Thanx again
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Posted by Build22 on Thursday, June 26, 2003 7:48 AM
Here's a neat little article for background info

http://www.activevr.com/afv/zimmerit.html



Jim [IMG]
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