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Best 1/35 King Tiger?
Posted by MonsterZero on Thursday, August 11, 2005 10:14 PM
In addition to high level of detail I have but two requirements: turret front has to be square (not Porsche) and it should have zimmerit texture out of the box.

Does such a kit even exist?
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Posted by CDNTanker25 on Thursday, August 11, 2005 10:17 PM
well you'd want the Henschel turret then, that's the turret that went into production, only a fure Porsche turret existed. Umm as for out of the box zimmerit, I don't think it does exist, but you can get different kinds of zimmerit from a few companies, or you can make your own!
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 11, 2005 10:20 PM
For makes, get one of the two new Dragon KT's, they are really good in detail and fit.
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Posted by tigerman on Thursday, August 11, 2005 11:20 PM
Dragon is only about a year old on the moldings and they offer so much more than Tamiya. However, no mainstream kit offers zimmerit as an addition. I'd recommend Cavalier for Resin or Eduard for Pe if they carry them. Resin is definately more detailed, but more expensive.

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Posted by archangel571 on Friday, August 12, 2005 1:39 AM
That came from the MAN himself. should listen up.

anyway i am still okay with the tamiya king tiger though. they are getting kinda dated but the fit is still superb and the details are really crisp. plus nowadays you can finally get a tamiya tiger for lower price than the dragons... finally!!!! but then again the dragon KTs has a lot more parts you can play with.
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Posted by TMN1 on Friday, August 12, 2005 4:48 AM
You'd get most bang for the buck with the Dragon.
Kirin once did an entire replacement hull and turret that had zimmerit ...... but it was a horrible kit if you ask me.
Cavalier and Eduard would be your best choice.
As a little side info, there were 50 of the so called Porsche turrets. The first 3 were fitted to chassis number V1, V2 and V3 which were test vehicles, in other words there were 47 service vehicles with the so called Porsche turret. The first production turret was mounted on chassis number 280048 which rolled of the assembly line in June 1944.
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Posted by MonsterZero on Friday, August 12, 2005 6:24 AM
Guys, based on your responses I think I will focus on the Henshel turret Dragon KT.

Which aftermarket zimmerit set is recommended for that specific Dragon kit?

Do you have a link?
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Posted by tigerman on Friday, August 12, 2005 7:18 AM
Greatmodels has Cavalier on pre-order for $17.95 and Atak for $36.95. One thing about pre-orders, is that they can take some time to get them in. Eduard is only $10.35, but isn't as detailed. Verlinden is $26 for pe zim. I recommend resin such as Cavalier or Atak.

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Posted by zokissima on Friday, August 12, 2005 8:00 AM
As said allready, the Dragon KTs are, IMHO, the best kits on offer out there.
Why not try making the zimm yourself?
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Posted by crockett on Friday, August 12, 2005 8:09 AM
Here is the DML KT with the Verlinden PE zim set. This set was designed for the Tamiya kit, so I had to modify and fill in to fit the Dragon kit.





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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 12, 2005 9:16 AM
By the way, if you don't want to fiddle with putting two hundred track links together, get the Tamiya. It has vinyl tracks.

That said, it certainly seems that the Dragon kit (the newest one) is the way to go for Tiger II kits these days.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 12, 2005 9:33 AM
I didn't even realize that you could get PE Zimmeritt - I assumed that resin or do-it-yourself were the only options. In particular, I thought that the way PE was done you really only got flat surfaces (albeit possibly several planes of them), yet that stuff you show looks nicely textured.

Given the pictures you showed, I'm hard pressed to see what is wrong with it, and if it is 1) cheaper and 2) in stock I guess I'd go with it.
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Posted by tigerman on Friday, August 12, 2005 9:40 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Ralph Marshall
Given the pictures you showed, I'm hard pressed to see what is wrong with it, and if it is 1) cheaper and 2) in stock I guess I'd go with it.


Nothing wrong with am zimmerit. If it saves the hassle and the worry of screwing up a perfectly good kit, then I think it is a viable option. Me? Too chicken to try my own.....yet. I admit that the Verlinden looks better than Eduard probably would for PE. Atak is very nice, but you will pay more than what the cost of the kit is. I still recommend Cavalier and it is more cost friendly than Verlinden's PE. Just MHO.

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 12, 2005 2:55 PM
Dragon kingtigers are great and why do you want zimerate when you dont have to have it on the Kingtiger
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, August 13, 2005 12:33 PM
If want to assemble a 1/35 King Tiger without big troubles, from Tamiya is the model.
If you want a superb, amazing, astonishing 1/35 King Tiger, Dragon is the brand.

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, August 13, 2005 9:01 PM
I agree with Caveman. The later KT's didn't even have zim. Don't spend the money if you don't have too. More money for more kitsBig Smile [:D]
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Posted by TigerII on Saturday, August 13, 2005 9:11 PM
The later King Tigers that were built did not have zimmerit. But if u want zimmerit, go with the Cavalier resin zimmerit and model it as an early Henschel turret KT. The resin zimmerit is easy to work with. I used it on my KT.

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 14, 2005 8:09 AM
I have both of DMLs new KTs, and the Ardennes one is not correct . There were no KTs "late" that saw action in the Ardennes. The KT "Battle of the Bulge" is correct and is the best KT avalible on the market! Also comes with 8 fallschirmjager figs. I got mine still sealed for $27. One of the best deals I have ever gotten! And BTW, squadron has their Tamiya KT on sale for $20 bucks if anyone is interested!

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Posted by TMN1 on Sunday, August 14, 2005 8:29 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Ju-88C-6

I have both of DMLs new KTs, and the Ardennes one is not correct . There were no KTs "late" that saw action in the Ardennes.

Perry


There were no final versions of the KT that saw action in the Ardennes, that is correct. But a few vehicles were outfitted with the late style single link tracks ( Kgs 73/800/152 ) How many is a bit uncertain, some say 2-3 but i've heard numbers as high as 8-9.

Here is a picture of a destroyed Kingtiger from the Ardenne area with the single link tracks.

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Posted by ridleusmc on Sunday, August 14, 2005 8:53 AM
A word of caution, it is pretty easy to misallign PE zim. Large pieces that wrap around a turret or hull can be a little tricky and impossible to fix if a mistake is made. The usual patience and care should be taken when fixing a kit with PE zim.
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Posted by Bimmer2 on Thursday, March 09, 2017 4:28 PM

TAKOM is now producing 3 different 1/35 KING TIGER Tank kits complete with scale thick armor & Zimmerit! 

Check it out!

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Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, March 09, 2017 5:36 PM

A LOT of new kits have come out since this thread was posted 12 years ago... more Dragons, Zvezda, Takom...

 

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Posted by M. Brindos on Thursday, March 09, 2017 7:15 PM

Lot of necro posting in long dead threads happening lately. Wonder why that is??

This thread died 12 years ago. Obviously no need to provide an answer to it now lol.

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Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, March 09, 2017 9:26 PM

A new crop of recruits. I suspect that each finds a thread where they have a helpful answer... and don't see the age of the thread.

 

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Posted by JohanT on Tuesday, March 14, 2017 5:22 PM

Hi Bimmer2,

I have the Academy (Eduard) and the old Dragon from 2004, both WIP since I can not make up my mind to Zimm or not (2B or not 2B) ...


The Academy is supposed to be a post Zimm in the production line.

Are you planning to build the Tacom, would be nice to follow your build if so!

Very Best Regards
Johan

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Posted by warshipguy on Tuesday, March 14, 2017 8:12 PM

I bought the TACOM kit and I think it is great!  I haven't started building it yet, but I did dry-fit some of the major parts and they seem to fit well.  I am looking forward to building it soon.

Bill

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