Blueprints

Anonymous

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November 2005

Blueprints

Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 24, 2003 4:10 PM

Does any one know where I can accquire drawings of armour with dimensions and angles of armour plate? I'm thinking of a scratch build project.

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wibhi2

Member since
March 2003
From: Brooklyn

Posted by wibhi2 on Thursday, July 24, 2003 4:19 PM

If you could show me, I could draw it. But I'd be interested if there was an easier method.

3d modelling is an option a true mental excercise in frusrtation

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djmodels1999

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December 2002
From: United Kingdom / Belgium

Posted by djmodels1999 on Thursday, July 24, 2003 4:46 PM

What have you got in mind, Derek?

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 24, 2003 5:40 PM

I would like to do a large scale SdKfz 221, M8 or similar wheeled armoured car. I know I could probly find kits but I want to scratch build. I was thinking I would be easier for a first scratch-build to do one of these that was made of mostly flat panels. I need a set of drawings in a known scale to build from. I think I can handle some resin casting , small soldering and other techniques, I just need plans.

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renarts

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April 2003
From: Sunny Florida

Posted by renarts on Thursday, July 24, 2003 6:49 PM

Hey Derek,

Contact Shermanfreak. He has a bunch of scale drawings of German equipment (amongst others) for sale.

Mike

Mike "Imagination is the dye that colors our lives" Marcus Aurellius A good friend will come and bail you out of jail...but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn...that was fun!"

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 24, 2003 8:49 PM

Hey, what's sherman doing with German scale drawings??? Ah, maybe being converted?

Muhahahaha

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 24, 2003 8:52 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by Erock68

Hey, what's sherman doing with German scale drawings??? Ah, maybe being converted?

Muhahahaha

Probly using them for trade fodder. Surprised he doesn't have a real Sherman. Cool [8D]

P.S. If they were on CD in .DXF or .DWG format it would be cool.

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shermanfreak

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January 2003

Posted by shermanfreak on Thursday, July 24, 2003 9:01 PM

QUOTE: what's sherman doing with German scale drawings???

Got to know your targets .... LOL

Derek ... I'll get back to you in a bit about the drawings.

Happy Modelling and God Bless Robert

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shermanfreak

Member since
January 2003

Posted by shermanfreak on Thursday, July 24, 2003 9:31 PM

Ok Derek .... this is what I have. They are 1/35 scale line drawings, they show 4 views of the vehicle but do not show what the angles or dimensions are. What you can do however is use a scale rule on them to determine the lengths of each panel, etc. I no longer have the German prints and never did have one of the 221. But I do have one of the M8 if that will help you any.

Happy Modelling and God Bless Robert

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 25, 2003 12:01 AM

Shermanfreak,
Sounds good. Measurements should be pretty easy, I did find a program that lets you input the corner points of an angled plate and then outputs a flat plate, have to go hunting for that again.

I also considered the M3A1 scout car but those fenders are a little scary for a first scratch-build.

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wibhi2

Member since
March 2003
From: Brooklyn

Posted by wibhi2 on Friday, July 25, 2003 8:56 AM

If you've got a 3 view image or bitmap, I can convert it to DWG or DXF format for ya.
I got a nifty piece of software that does that and has been an immense help in my practice.

3d modelling is an option a true mental excercise in frusrtation

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 25, 2003 11:30 AM

I don't have drawings yet but i may take you up on the offer when I get some. I have tried some raster to vector conversion software and have been really disappointed and for some reason I can't import to my CAD from the scanner.

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wibhi2

Member since
March 2003
From: Brooklyn

Posted by wibhi2 on Friday, July 25, 2003 1:23 PM

Nah, you gotta save it as a jpg or bmp first, then use the import image command. Each package is different and have thier own skeletons in how the command is implemented
I've been using scan2cad by softcover (http://www.rastertovector.com) and have been rather
successful with it. Admittedly it takes quite a bit of image editing to get the vectors right but otherwise
it's been good to me. beats traditional methods to get the info into CAD.

higher res is better

3d modelling is an option a true mental excercise in frusrtation

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 25, 2003 2:00 PM

I've used scanvector and wintopo. scan vector gave some OK results and wintopo gave me a nice Topographic chart of a P-38!

I use TurboCAD ( www.imsisoft.com ) mine is the free version, actually an older version which was released as a learning edition when V8 came out, and the Trace function doesn't work even though it should.

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wibhi2

Member since
March 2003
From: Brooklyn

Posted by wibhi2 on Friday, July 25, 2003 2:36 PM

wintopo? sounds like I could have alot of fun with that.
Autocad junkie myself (been fussing with it since '85)

Anywho's, ya need - just shout

3d modelling is an option a true mental excercise in frusrtation

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shermanfreak

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January 2003

Posted by shermanfreak on Friday, July 25, 2003 8:41 PM

M8 should be in your mailbox Derek.

Happy Modelling and God Bless Robert

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, July 26, 2003 8:54 AM

Got it Shermanfreak, tanks a lot. This is gonna be an adventure.

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shermanfreak

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January 2003

Posted by shermanfreak on Saturday, July 26, 2003 12:21 PM

Good to hear you recieved them ok. Best of luck on the project, patience should win the day. Keep us posted as to your progress.

Happy Modelling and God Bless Robert

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, July 26, 2003 3:12 PM

Looks i'm taking the advice of my sig. Cool [8D]

Just wish I could remember the name of that program. At the time I thought it would be a while before I would need that.

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, April 14, 2004 9:25 AM

hello this site does scale plans in 1/48 and 1/35 just order them by post charges is great get them an take to the printers (ask for a permission slip) and blow them up to any scale http://www.activevr.com/afv/1-35.html
there is e-100 and the maus also the jagdtiger

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, April 14, 2004 12:33 PM

There is this site: http://www.onwar.com/tanks/index.htm has alot of tanks, not sure what scale though.

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, April 14, 2004 1:27 PM

The Ordnance Museum at Aberdeen Proving Ground USED to sell blueprints (about 0'-2"=1-0" scale) and / or 1/35 scale drawings of several dozen US vehicles. Unfortunately, the service is no longer provided.
A few years ago when I requested a copy of M7 snow tractor prints, they said they weren't doing them any more. When I explained I was RESTORING an M7, they told me to get lost Angry [:(!]

You'd think they could've run off ONE copy!
However, when they were doing the prints, they were super cool blue line arsenal prints.

Ron

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, April 14, 2004 2:43 PM

the on war plans are approx 1/76 scale and not too good in detail does not blow up to good standard

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