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Tamiya Panther A - Done!

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Tamiya Panther A - Done!
Posted by ABARNE on Monday, May 1, 2006 2:10 AM

Lately there have been a few builds of these old 1969 Tamiya Panthers posted here.  Mine started a couple of months back, when I picked one up thinking, "How bad can it be?"  The kit is indeed well off Tamiya's 1970's standards, and the tracks are just terrible (They could even be described as the kit's "weak link"Wink [;)])  There are a lot of other issues, and spending a ton of money on aftermarket parts for it just didn't make a lot of sense, so I chose instead to fix what could be fixed and accept whatever other problems remained.

The main things I fixed were to seal up the motorization holes, remove the front and rear axle tubes, and add sponson floors to the lower hull, and to reshape the gun mount and narrow down the mantlet on the turret.  I also did a number of standard build tweaks such as shaving overscale thickness parts, drilling exahaust pipes, and adding wire tow cables.

For Zimmerit, I used Tamiya two-part polyester putty, raking it with Tamiya Zimmerit tools.  I used the larger 0.7mm tools.  Although the 0.5mm tools would have been closer to scale, I don't think that they would have raked cleanly through the putty.  I've previously done a variety Zimmerit experiments, but had never done an entire tank before.  It actually wasn't a terribly difficult process being more tedious than difficult, although the experience makes me wonder how people are able to pull off some of the more complex patternsQuestion [?].

Since the tracks were immune to CA glue and anything else I had handy, I couldn't sag the tracks by gluing them to the tops of the road wheels.  So I used one crosswise brass rod behind the drive spocket.  Over the road wheels, I used thread passed through the sproket holes to tie the tracks down.

For paint, keeping with the Tamiya theme, I natually used the usual Tamiya acrylics.  I had not used Tamiya acrylics previously, other than for weathering purposes.  They painted well enough, although the colors seemed change a great deal during the drying process which threw me for a bit of a loop at first.  I had no confidence in decals over the Zimmerit, so I painted the numbers and crosses by hand.  I pre-painted with white, masked, and then painted the camo.  It was then really easy to touch up the white and in-fill with black.  Weathering consisted mostly of some light washing, dried mud from pastel chalk and flat acrylic, and light dusting with browns and tans to simulate dust.




All in all, this was actually a pretty fun tank to build.  It had a number of unique challenges and was an ideal test bed for experimenting with some new techniques.  While still not a perfectly accurate Panther, it'll look good in the display case. 

There are more photos of the finished cat here: http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v624/ABARNE/Panther%20-%20Ausf%20A%201-35/Finished/

Here are some construction photos:
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v624/ABARNE/Panther%20-%20Ausf%20A%201-35/Construction/

Hope you enjoy.

Andy

 

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Posted by m60a3 on Monday, May 1, 2006 2:25 AM
Man, that zimmerit looks good. Nice finish, man. You did that old kit some pretty good justice.

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Posted by PITERPANZER on Monday, May 1, 2006 3:28 AM

Nice model,great zimm and camo!

Reagards from Poland

 

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Posted by South Aussie on Monday, May 1, 2006 3:43 AM
Nice Build Andy, especially the Zimmerit application.  Thanks for sharing.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, May 1, 2006 6:12 AM
Looks great! The zim is very good! I like the camo!
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Posted by spacepacker on Monday, May 1, 2006 7:35 AM
Smile [:)]Very well done, thanks for letting us look...Kenny
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, May 1, 2006 8:24 AM
Great job on the build.
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Posted by disastermaster on Monday, May 1, 2006 10:17 AM
That's a great job on such an outdated kit.
Very good looking Zim and a very GOOD looking camo job.
It's good to see people use their creativity instead of buying so much aftermarket stuff.
What Tamiya colors did you use? The yellow has to be a custom mix. I don't recognize it.

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, May 1, 2006 10:51 AM

I built the kit not long ago and I thought it was an OK kit, but nice job an the build

PS: I love the zimm

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Posted by DantheMan85 on Monday, May 1, 2006 10:58 AM
Hay very nice looking Panther,  did you go with dark yellow, dark green, and red brown for the camm?  The paint job is top noch, I my self are working on a Panther G.  Overall I give it a 10 out of 10, Good Job!

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Posted by zokissima on Monday, May 1, 2006 11:41 AM
Looks nice. What's with everyone building old Tamiya kits now.
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Posted by schweinhund on Monday, May 1, 2006 12:57 PM

Great work! I realy love that zimmerit, well done Thumbs Up [tup]

Jan Smile [:)]

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Posted by m1garand on Monday, May 1, 2006 12:58 PM
Nicely done. 
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Posted by crockett on Monday, May 1, 2006 2:43 PM

You hit a home run Andy, way to go on this old dinosaur!

 

Steve

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Posted by tigerman on Monday, May 1, 2006 6:05 PM

 zokissima wrote:
Looks nice. What's with everyone building old Tamiya kits now.

LOL. I've noticed that too.

Really beautiful build of the Panther. Of course it is a matter of preference, but I would really have added them engine deck screens. That is just me though, and it takes nothing away from your build. The zimmerit turned out great. Archer transfers will settle down over zimmerit with some TLC, as most decals with a little micro-sol. Just an FYI. Well done.

   http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/wing_nut_5o/PANZERJAGERGB.jpg

 Eric 

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Posted by Dwight Ta-ala on Monday, May 1, 2006 6:43 PM

I think your patience with this old kit really paid off. It turned out really really nice. I like the ZIM, too. Great job.

So are we going to push through with starting "The Old Tamiya Club" yet? Big Smile [:D]

 

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Posted by ABARNE on Monday, May 1, 2006 9:02 PM

Thanks guys for the compliments.

DistasterMaster, FeldMarSchall Model:
For the colors, I used the recommendations from Tamiya's Panther G w/Zimmerit, which I have in the build queue, which are Dark Yellow XF-60, Dark Green XF-61, Red Brown XF-64.  About the yellow color seeming off, I think between the lighting and/or my camera, the photos seem to have a somewhat redder than the tank appears to be in real life.  Although the colors were straight from the bottle, the yellow in paticular would have gotten a bit tinted from the brown wash and weathering.  The color that really threw me for a loop was the green, which looks to my eye to be significantly darker than what everyone else seems to end up with.  I was very careful to make certain the paints were well mixed.  Go figure.

zokissima:
It is kind of odd how these old Tamiya kits keep surfacing.  They are cheap, so maybe all the comments that have been made about the price of kits has turned us into misers!

Tigerman:
I actually kind of agree with you about the screens, particulary the hole in the rear-center of the engine cover.  It really was a build scope issue, in which I drew the line at aftermarket parts.  On the other hand, if I were going to pick up any aftermarket parts for it, I think some PE screens and tracks would be the first things to buy.  Of course if I did that, I would probably end up spending more money than if I have just bought Dragon's Panther A. 

Dwight:
"The Old Tamiya Club?"  I'm there!Thumbs Up [tup]  Of my completed armor builds, my most modern Tamiya is their M4 which is now almost twenty years old.

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Posted by STUG61 on Tuesday, May 2, 2006 12:14 AM

Nice job on an old kit!!!

Just goes to prove it's not so much the kit but what you do with it!!!

Smile! It makes people nervous!! Andy
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Posted by matthew9 on Tuesday, May 2, 2006 8:17 AM
Great work. The zimmerit looks good. Your tracks really turned out nice. Getting the track sag on that is tough, nice tip on the thread. Nice job.
Matt
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 2, 2006 8:39 AM
Wow ... nicely done ... GOOD job
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Posted by DantheMan85 on Tuesday, May 2, 2006 7:22 PM
Hay Abarne  one more question,   did you paint the inside of the turret, if so what was it.  I painted mine flat white, and that hach black.  I want to paint the loading breech, but I don't know what color to paint it?-->

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Posted by treadwell on Tuesday, May 2, 2006 8:39 PM
hey man-- great workBig Smile [:D]--the camo job is awsome--but i must say,i find the zimm on this build truley out standing!-- it just looks greatWow!! [wow]Thumbs Up [tup]-- to my eye it does not look out of scale at all (.5mm as opposed to .7mm)- dont know if the unit numbers are decal or hand painted-- so what does that tell ya?Tongue [:P]-- lol-- #613 is awsome---treadwellCool [8D]

   

 

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Posted by cj95 on Tuesday, May 2, 2006 10:10 PM

Sweet build there sir.

I totally agree with the sentiment that old kits can make very very nice builds if you just given them a little thought. 

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Posted by ABARNE on Wednesday, May 3, 2006 2:29 PM

 FeldMarSchall Model wrote:
Hay Abarne  one more question,   did you paint the inside of the turret, if so what was it.  I painted mine flat white, and that hach black.  I want to paint the loading breech, but I don't know what color to paint it?-->

I did paint the inside, but because I included no interior detail, I painted everthing flat black to hide things.  I'm not real sure exactly what the interior colors are supposed to be.  I seem to reacl some recent discussions on the subject, and the interior color scheme may have been a bit differnt than basic white.

Andy

 

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Posted by moviehdappapk on Saturday, January 13, 2018 12:28 AM

Great one

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