What's your favorite WWII tracked tank destroyer?

J-Hulk

Member since
February 2003
From: Tochigi, Japan

Posted by J-Hulk on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 10:23 AM

And that's that!
The votes are in, and as you can see, the Jagdpanther takes the prize with 32% of the vote, followed by all-Allied 2nd and 3rd place finishes, with the M-10/Achilles grabbing 18% of the vote and the M-18 Hellcat with 12%.

Surprisingly (for me, anyway!) the Jagdtiger (my personal fave) and Hetzer tied for 4th place with 9% of the vote.

I reckon the Soviet tank destroyers didn't fare so well because they're not really tank destroyers!

Anyway, polls are fun, so let's have some more, folks!

~Brian

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J-Hulk

Member since
February 2003
From: Tochigi, Japan

Posted by J-Hulk on Thursday, August 21, 2003 12:45 PM

I wonder if they'd crunch if you stepped on them, too!

~Brian

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 21, 2003 10:33 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by M1abramsRules
[... but you have to admire the hetzer. low profile, well armored and armed.

i like the hetzer myself... it reminds me of those scarabs in "The
Mummy", little but lethal. Evil [}:)]

frosty

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J-Hulk

Member since
February 2003
From: Tochigi, Japan

Posted by J-Hulk on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 6:17 AM

We shorely do!

~Brian

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 18, 2003 10:38 PM

QUOTE: ya cain't take the Suthrin out of a Suthriner. Ya'll know that! :)

Aint thet suposed to be "Y'all cain't take the Suthrin ot'n a Suthriner. Y'all know that!"

Big Smile [:D]

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Keyworth

Member since
January 2003
From: NE Georgia

Posted by Keyworth on Monday, August 18, 2003 9:41 PM

J-Hulk, ya cain't take the Suthrin out of a Suthriner. Ya'll know that! :)

"There's no problem that can't be solved with a suitable application of high explosives"

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therriman

Member since
January 2003
From: Central MI

Posted by therriman on Monday, August 18, 2003 1:18 PM

Ya got me there. I've got too much yankee in me to do that. Tongue [:P]

Tim H. "If your alone and you meet a Zero, run like hell. Your outnumbered" Capt Joe Foss, Guadalcanal 1942 Real Trucks have 18 wheels. Anything less is just a Toy! I am in shape. Hey, Round is a shape! Reality is a concept not yet proven.

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J-Hulk

Member since
February 2003
From: Tochigi, Japan

Posted by J-Hulk on Monday, August 18, 2003 11:45 AM

And sometimes, just sometimes, once in a long while, when I'm tired and my guard is down, I have caught myself pronouncing the word "power" as "par."

~Brian

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therriman

Member since
January 2003
From: Central MI

Posted by therriman on Monday, August 18, 2003 10:58 AM

Mine too!

Tim H. "If your alone and you meet a Zero, run like hell. Your outnumbered" Capt Joe Foss, Guadalcanal 1942 Real Trucks have 18 wheels. Anything less is just a Toy! I am in shape. Hey, Round is a shape! Reality is a concept not yet proven.

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J-Hulk

Member since
February 2003
From: Tochigi, Japan

Posted by J-Hulk on Monday, August 18, 2003 10:50 AM

I know what ya mean!
"Ya'll" is an indelible part of my vocabulary!

~Brian

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therriman

Member since
January 2003
From: Central MI

Posted by therriman on Monday, August 18, 2003 10:30 AM

J-Hulk, I was born and raised in Michigan. But I spent most of my 9 years in the Navy stationed in Norfolk, VA. Due to that I have been accused of having a southern accent myself. I can tell you for a fact my Wife, kids, and myself are about the only people in Michigan that refuse to call "soda"-"pop". Half the time people look at use like were crazy or something. But it will forever be "soda" to me.

Tim H. "If your alone and you meet a Zero, run like hell. Your outnumbered" Capt Joe Foss, Guadalcanal 1942 Real Trucks have 18 wheels. Anything less is just a Toy! I am in shape. Hey, Round is a shape! Reality is a concept not yet proven.

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J-Hulk

Member since
February 2003
From: Tochigi, Japan

Posted by J-Hulk on Monday, August 18, 2003 6:06 AM

Dwight, vote all ya want! No rules! The ethics I leave to the individual. This is all just for fun, anyway, so if ya wanna stuff the ballot box for candidate Jackson, go right ahead! I guess I should close voting at some point though, eh?

Tim, although I am a good ol' stump-pullin' boy from the swamps of southern Georgia, I was born in Florida, and raised in California and Michigan, so my ENGLISH doesn't even have a Southern drawl!
You're right, though...my English is slipping, slowly but surely...

~Brian

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therriman

Member since
January 2003
From: Central MI

Posted by therriman on Sunday, August 17, 2003 9:11 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by J-Hulk

And I incorrectly called the jagdpanzer IV a "panzerjager". Isn't that some kinda liqour?

J-Hulk, You've spent too much time speaking Japanese. You forget how to read English Evil [}:)]

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By the way I can't help but wonder if you're Japanese has a Georgia southern drawl in it? If so can the locals understand you????? Big Smile [:D]

Tim H. "If your alone and you meet a Zero, run like hell. Your outnumbered" Capt Joe Foss, Guadalcanal 1942 Real Trucks have 18 wheels. Anything less is just a Toy! I am in shape. Hey, Round is a shape! Reality is a concept not yet proven.

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tigerman

Member since
March 2003
From: Rain USA, Vancouver WA

Posted by tigerman on Sunday, August 17, 2003 6:39 PM

Your right Dwight, J-Hulk added The M-36 and the M-18 later on. You'll have to check with J-Hulk on the game rules. Wink [;)]

"It is well that war is so terrible, lest we grow too fond of it."-R.E.Lee

Eric

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Dwight Ta-ala

Member since
July 2003
From: Philippines

Posted by Dwight Ta-ala on Sunday, August 17, 2003 6:01 PM

I swear the M-36 wasn't there the last time I voted...??? Now I see it there in the list. Can I vote again?

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tigerman

Member since
March 2003
From: Rain USA, Vancouver WA

Posted by tigerman on Sunday, August 17, 2003 3:04 PM

Hi J-Hulk. I'm not sure it had the same gun as the KV II, but my guess is it did. I would love to see that picture if you can find it. The SU 152 must have been 10 yards away! Lol Big Smile [:D]

I'm kinda wondering if the SU 122 was also a SPG with 122mm howitzer. Guessing it is also. Wink [;)]

"It is well that war is so terrible, lest we grow too fond of it."-R.E.Lee

Eric

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J-Hulk

Member since
February 2003
From: Tochigi, Japan

Posted by J-Hulk on Sunday, August 17, 2003 7:37 AM

Tigerman
Yeah, I was a bit suspiscious of the Su-152 as a dedicated tank destroyer myself, but it was on a list of Russian "tank destroyers" I was checking out trying to put this poll together, so I included it. Isn't that the same gun as used on the KV-II?

Also, I think I've seen a pic of a Panther with a garage door-sized hole in the side, with the caption explaining the remodeling was courtesy of an Su-152.

Claymore
Ah yes, Jagermeister. I vaguely remember it well.

Good info on the allied tank killers!
The Japanese Ground Self Defense Force used some M-36s, too.

~Brian

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, August 16, 2003 4:14 PM

The M-18 had a 76mm gun compared to the M-10's 3in (76.2mm) The 3in was woefully underpowered and inferior to the M-18's 76mm for anti-tank roles so it was replace by the 17pdr (Achillies) and later a 90mm gun in the M-36 GMC. The M-18 had a far superior chassis with torsion bar suspension while the M-10 used the M4A2 VVSS chassis and was a very effective "stopgap" tank killer.

BTW: M-36 90mm GMCs were still serving as late as 1993 in the Croatian army.

Won't even bother comparing the sorry M-5 3in GMC based on the Cletrac. Dead [xx(]

J-Hulk

QUOTE: And I incorrectly called the jagdpanzer IV a "panzerjager". Isn't that some kinda liqour?

That would be Jagermeister. Mmmm good. Tongue [:P]

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tigerman

Member since
March 2003
From: Rain USA, Vancouver WA

Posted by tigerman on Saturday, August 16, 2003 12:50 PM

I'm not sure the SU 152 belongs in this catagory, it was a SPG with a howitzer. Just my thoughts. Wink [;)]

Eric

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J-Hulk

Member since
February 2003
From: Tochigi, Japan

Posted by J-Hulk on Saturday, August 16, 2003 11:00 AM

Geez, I broke the code of ethics and sneaked two late candidates in, and nobody's voted for 'em yet!

~Brian

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M1abramsRules

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June 2003

Posted by M1abramsRules on Saturday, August 16, 2003 8:08 AM

very unethical, you should be ashamed of yourself!!!!!

just kidding Wink [;)]

who cares

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J-Hulk

Member since
February 2003
From: Tochigi, Japan

Posted by J-Hulk on Saturday, August 16, 2003 2:32 AM

Whoops! I knew I forgot some important pieces!

I'll put in the Hellcat and Jackson.

And I incorrectly called the jagdpanzer IV a "panzerjager". Isn't that some kinda liqour?

Hey, is it ethical to add stuff mid-poll?
Heck, it's just for fun!

~Brian

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, August 16, 2003 1:16 AM

Bummer!
The Russian stuff is not doing well at all.

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M1abramsRules

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June 2003

Posted by M1abramsRules on Saturday, August 16, 2003 12:18 AM

not a chance! 23 mph slower, not as good a gun, bigger, heavier.

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, August 16, 2003 12:14 AM

HA!
M-10 is kickin' butt! Big Smile [:D]

I was also suprised to see the lack of the M-18 Hellcat but the M-10 was better.

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Dwight Ta-ala

Member since
July 2003
From: Philippines

Posted by Dwight Ta-ala on Friday, August 15, 2003 9:55 PM

Where's the M-36? Is, the U.S. Tank Destroyer sufficiently armed to deal with the Tigers and Panthers, and its not even in the list? Oh well, I just chose another.

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RAF120

Member since
March 2003
From: Exit 7a NJ Turnpike

Posted by RAF120 on Friday, August 15, 2003 9:52 PM

I was looking for the M-18 Hellcat myself And was surprised to see the M-10 in the lead. All our Germanfreaks must live in New York and Canada.

Trevor Where am I going and why am I in this handbasket?

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M1abramsRules

Member since
June 2003

Posted by M1abramsRules on Friday, August 15, 2003 8:35 PM

woohoo I'm tied for 3rd, where's the m-18 hellcat. not that I woulda voted for it but you only got 1 US piece there. and what about the jagdpanzer IV. but you have to admire the hetzer. low profile, well armored and armed.

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tigerman

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March 2003
From: Rain USA, Vancouver WA

Posted by tigerman on Friday, August 15, 2003 7:45 PM

I'm surprised to be in second place. Where's the M 18 Hellcat? I'm doubly surprised at the M 10's lead at the moment.

"It is well that war is so terrible, lest we grow too fond of it."-R.E.Lee

Eric

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