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Pair of Duces M35A1 and M102 Howitzer (pics)

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Pair of Duces M35A1 and M102 Howitzer (pics)
Posted by redleg12 on Sunday, January 28, 2007 8:52 PM

Towed artillery emplacement circa mid 1980s

 

Memories of a retired redleg! Please post your comments.

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Posted by Panther 44 on Monday, January 29, 2007 7:57 AM

redleg12,

  Looks pretty good, although I must admit the pictures are rather small for these eyes.

 The one thing that jumps out at me is, everything looks so clean. Your stowage is too uniform in color, you need to vary the shades some.

 I think with a bit more weathering, you'll have a winner.

 Very good start, with attention to detail and good construction. I'd go Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup].

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Posted by ajlafleche on Monday, January 29, 2007 8:29 AM

Builds look good overall and it's clear you know your stuff about emplacing arty. Are all the accessories, such as those gizmos on the poles scratchbuilt? Nice work in getting them so equal in shape and size.

Rather than putting your ground cover/grass product directly onto the base, put a layer of Celluclay, spackle, plaster of Paris down first. This will allow sliight variations to the surface, giving a more natural feel to scene.

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Monday, January 29, 2007 8:32 AM

I like the looks of the deuce bed, very realistic. All you need to add would be a bag of trash tied to a corner of the tailgate and some of those green paper coffee cups sitting around!

P.S. the gizmos are called spreaders.

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Posted by redleg12 on Monday, January 29, 2007 10:59 AM

I actually made a few expermental bags. As you describe, that was the normal practice for all the dunnage. I didn't get one to look the way I wanted. Still working!!

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Posted by redleg12 on Monday, January 29, 2007 11:05 AM

The gizmos are spreaders used for the camo nets. The poles and spreaders are scratch built along with the collimeter (telescope to the front of the gun, used for alinging the gun) safety stakes on either side of the tail, ramming staff on ground in front, powder bags in crate in front of the truck. The remaining detail items were resin sets, photetched and parts from other kits.

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"The Moral High Ground....A Great Place to Emplace Artillery."

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Posted by redleg12 on Monday, January 29, 2007 11:09 AM

PS... Normally you would emplace a towed artillery on a flat spot. Its tough to make gun corrections if the gun is cocked!!  But in general your point is weel taken. Even if flat would allow for tire tracks, etc.

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Posted by BANSHEE on Monday, January 29, 2007 2:02 PM

Very Nice indeed, noticed the Camo Pole Spreaders as well(I think thats the first time I've seen them modeled). Only thing I can see a little fugazy is putting fused 105mm rounds upright on a tailgate(somehow gotta think it would be a "Chief of Smokes" big no-no if they fell over). Maybe hang the rucks over the side of the truck, & add some Rolled Sleeping Mats as well.

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Posted by shaun68 on Monday, January 29, 2007 3:33 PM

Nice work redleg, very nice. Is that the AFV Club kit of the M102? If so, could you please tell me if it comes with 2 or 4 springs.

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Posted by redleg12 on Monday, January 29, 2007 3:46 PM
 BANSHEE3Actual wrote:

Very Nice indeed, noticed the Camo Pole Spreaders as well(I think thats the first time I've seen them modeled). Only thing I can see a little fugazy is putting fused 105mm rounds upright on a tailgate(somehow gotta think it would be a "Chief of Smokes" big no-no if they fell over). Maybe hang the rucks over the side of the truck, & add some Rolled Sleeping Mats as well.

The rounds on the tailgate were illum. We usually kept them seperate from the he, wp & smoke (on the ground standing in the crates). I did not have enough split rounds but we would keep the joe and casing separate on the tail. Its not perfect but close.

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Posted by redleg12 on Monday, January 29, 2007 3:48 PM
 shaun68 wrote:

Nice work redleg, very nice. Is that the AFV Club kit of the M102? If so, could you please tell me if it comes with 2 or 4 springs.

Two springs and the ones supplied I shortened slightly since they were too compressed otherwise. Took off about 1/3. It should fill the distance but be open slightly.

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Posted by GlennH on Tuesday, October 4, 2016 9:40 AM
Old thread but I just saw it looking for builds on Google of the M102. I just finished that 2 1/2 ton and was thinking of the 102 next. Trying to complete all I was on, in or assigned to. Got the Huey, jeep, 3/4 ton. 2 1/2 ton, APC, Chinook, 155 towed, 105 towed, 175 sp and now looking at the 102. Only thing I have not found is the 5 ton of my era.

A number Army Viet Nam scans from hundreds yet to be done:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/southwestdreams/albums/72157621855914355

Have had the great fortune to be on every side of the howitzers.

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Posted by HeavyArty on Tuesday, October 4, 2016 10:56 AM

GlennH
Only thing I have not found is the 5 ton of my era.

Unfortunately, there are no M54 or M800 series 5-tons available in plastic.  Both are available from either Hobby Fan or Real Model in resin though.  Another option is to convert one using the Italeri M900 series 5 ton, an M35 , and a bit of scratch-building.  Here is a guide on how to do it:   http://www.armorama.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Sections&file=index&req=viewarticle&artid=301

I followed the above to build the Vietnam M54A1 guntruck "King Cobra".

 

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Posted by GlennH on Wednesday, October 5, 2016 4:56 PM
Thanks Gino. That's a very impressive modification. I remember seeing a few of those gun trucks and I still have to smile about how they must have come to be. Any bets it was a few E4's sitting around "hmmm what if we take that trashed out APC and strip it and .....let me measure....and hmmm it looks like it might fit on that 5tons bed...."

A number Army Viet Nam scans from hundreds yet to be done:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/southwestdreams/albums/72157621855914355

Have had the great fortune to be on every side of the howitzers.

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