painting filters on armor

Thanks guys,

It sounds an awful like glazing, only after the fact rather than underneath. I've used glazing as an under coat in oil paintings and it is dependent on the "atmosphere" you are trying to create. i.e. for a warm tone you underglaze with a warm colored paint. for instance a warm or honey colored brown. This is done as a monotone sketch of the image and works very similar to preshading a model. This filter thing has intrigued me since the projects I've seen (two by Mig and one by another spanish artist who is an apparent associate of Migs since he references their collaboration in an article) have made the subject look more realistic and have given a fantastic finish to the model. I'm anxious to see your results Moses (amongst other projects...hint, hint) and see how you've handled the filtering.

So can I assume that desert scheme filters will use tans, whites, yellows, browns and blacks. European filters, use blues, greys, browns, blacks, greens, olives. Fall camo use filters of reds, brown, yellow, white, forest, orange, black. etc. so on and so forth? Sound right to anyone?

The articles I saw it in were in Miltary Modeling, Miltary Modeler, and Tamiya's model magazine. Seems to be showing up alot in Spain (no doubt because of Mig) and some of the English builders seem to be using it.

BTW thanks for the link I'll be reading it later.

Ron, let me know your results, good, bad or disapointing.

Mike

Hi All,

Read Mig's article and am looking forward to trying this out sometime. So basically ,it's a more carefully diluted 'wash' that is put on damp rather than wet, am I reading that correctly?
Pure turpentine thinners sounds like another trial and error type thing to get exactly the right manufacturer and such (reading into the 'sticky finish' from one brand). So if anybody finds the right brand name at a major chain like Walthers, Wally World (Wal-Mart) or Kame Apart (Kmart). Let the rest of us in on it okay?
I'll take a look and see what I can come up with. I've plenty of old 'hulks' laying around to experiment on. Sounds like an easy and effective technique.

Ron.

LOL scoccia, we must have posted about the same time. Nice find bud

Mike, I have recently starting using filters on my most recent projects. They work very well and give a nice effect to teh base coats. MIG Jimenez is the one who really got the notion of Filters to the mass. He has a awesome article on missing-lynx..he is the link..

http://www.missing-lynx.com/rare_world/rw02.htm

If you get the Japanese magazine Armor Modelling..many projects in there show the use of the filter technique. Unlike a wash where you apply tinted thinner over a basecoat, a filter is basically putting a speck of oil paint on the surface, then thinning and spreading it out right on the model. Whites, blacks, browns, and tans are all great colors for it. I am in the process of using this on my Tiger I Mid-Pro, but it can not really be used on zimmed areas with great effect, so I a limiting it to non zimmed areas.

Cheers

Rob

You can have a look at Mig's filters how-to following the following link:

http://www.missing-lynx.com/rare_world/rw02.htm

He also wrote a few more about pastels and more
Ciao

Mike,

'Filtering' is new to me, or at least the term is. Where can I find more info? I'm always looking for ways to enhance a model's appearance. Some techniques look great 'on the shelf', but don't make the vehicle look like its real 'relative'. So, I'm very interested to learn about 'filtering'!

Ron.

Renarts,

I know what you are talking about. It seems to me there has to be a great knowledge of colors and color blending. It's almost like portrait painting on a 3-D object. They use color to get or enhance 3-D effects. ( I guess I should of paid more attention to that weird painter on PBS that was on after Sesame Street )

I know there is something to it - because if I pre-shade with black and then paint over with dark yellow, I get a much different color when I paint w/dark yellow over the top of plain old primer gray.

Mike,
I haven't tried that out yet myself and I guess the criteria for picking what colors to use is either trial and error (what I'd have to use) or one of those things that someone with true artistic talent would just know how to do!! It would be nice if someone would print out a "suggested" colors for each particular paint scheme and what type of "fading" it will give...i.e. "rusty" look, "sun bleached" look, "just plain dirty" look, etc.

I'm not that talented when it comes to knowing what something will turn out like as far as the colors go so I sure could use a chart (or a book for that matter )

Eric