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88mm and FAMO 18t???

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nmayhew

Member since
July 2003
From: Kent, England

88mm and FAMO 18t???

Posted by nmayhew on Wednesday, September 17, 2003 8:23 AM

hey guys,

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i was thinking of getting tamiya's 1/35 88mm gun+crew and an accompanying half track Cool [8D]

Cool [8D]

would i be right in thinking that the 88mm gun was towed by the heavy famo 18tonner? or was it towed by something smaller, and if so can someone sugest the relevant kit please?
finally can someone fix it so that i only have to work 6hrs a day instaed of 12, make double the money,and thus get time to make all the kits which are forming an avalanche risk in my storage cupboard!!! Black Eye [B)]

Black Eye [B)]

regards,
nick

Kind regards, Nicholas

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erush

Member since
May 2003
From: USA, GA

Posted by erush on Wednesday, September 17, 2003 9:42 AM

The Famo could definitely tow the 88mm but I don't know if it was used that much for that purpose. I can't even remember what I've seen the thing towed behind right now so hopefully someone will know. I know, that wasn't much help was it? Big Smile [:D]

Big Smile [:D]

I want to say the sdkfz7 was used for it but I just can't remember for sure.

Eric

Hi, I'm Eric and I'm a Modelholic too. I think I have PE poisioning.

"Friendly fire...isn't"

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styrene

Member since
May 2003
From: The flat lands of the Southeast

Posted by styrene on Wednesday, September 17, 2003 10:37 AM

The Famo didn't tow the 88 to my knowledge. That went, I think, to the 21-ton halftracks (if I remember rightly). There was a Famo that had an 88 mounted in the bed, and there is an aftermarket company that produces that conversion for the Tamiya kit. I think Tony Greenland did that conversion in one of the last "Military Modeler in Review" magazine issues (which, by the way is THE armor magazine to subscribe to. It's published quarterly by RZM--I think that's right.)
Gip Winecoff

1882: "God is dead"--F. Nietzsche

1900: "Nietzsche is dead"--God

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styrene

Member since
May 2003
From: The flat lands of the Southeast

Posted by styrene on Wednesday, September 17, 2003 10:40 AM

DOH! Forget the second sentence above; I think I'm all screwed up....maybe I'll just stop posting altogether....
Gip Winecoff

1882: "God is dead"--F. Nietzsche

1900: "Nietzsche is dead"--God

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shermanfreak

Member since
January 2003

Posted by shermanfreak on Wednesday, September 17, 2003 10:48 AM

I agree with Eric on this one (as much as that hurts). Tongue [:P]

Tongue [:P]

Tongue [:P]

The 88 was quite commonly towed by the Sd.Kfz.7. Now that doesn't mean that the famo couldn't and didn't, but that would be a lot of tractor for the job.

Happy Modelling and God Bless Robert

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erush

Member since
May 2003
From: USA, GA

Posted by erush on Wednesday, September 17, 2003 12:21 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by shermanfreak

I agree with Eric on this one (as much as that hurts).

Big Smile [:D]

Big Smile [:D]

Black Eye [B)]

Wink [;)]

Hi, I'm Eric and I'm a Modelholic too. I think I have PE poisioning.

"Friendly fire...isn't"

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Moses

Member since
February 2003
From: Long Island

Posted by Moses on Wednesday, September 17, 2003 1:05 PM

That is correct Styene. Tony Greenland coverted Tamiya's Famo to mount an 88mm on the back it was awesome. It was also published in his Panzer Modelling Master Class by Osprey..here are pics of his Famo.

http://www.archertransfers.com/GreenlandFamo.html

"ZIM FIRST, ASK QUESTIONS LATER!!"

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nmayhew

Member since
July 2003
From: Kent, England

Posted by nmayhew on Wednesday, September 17, 2003 2:17 PM

hey guys,

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thanks first of all for all the input! Smile [:)]

Smile [:)]

so now we've established that it was the sdkfz7 that towed the mighty 88 around town, any idea of who makes the relevant 1/35 kit, and where i can get it (web-based etc as i'm in the UK)??!!
had a look around but could only see the odd hasegawa 1/72...bit small for my 1/35 88 methinks! Tongue [:P]

Tongue [:P]

thank you all once again,
nick
Smile [:)]

Smile [:)]

Kind regards, Nicholas

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erush

Member since
May 2003
From: USA, GA

Posted by erush on Wednesday, September 17, 2003 2:37 PM

Tamiya made an sdkfz7 but I don't know how easy it is to get now. You could also look at the AFV sdkfz11, I think it's possible it would have been used some for haulin an 88 around.

Good luck on your search.

Oh and as far as your workday/pay requests...I'll let you know after I get hired on there. Big Smile [:D]

Big Smile [:D]

Eric

Hi, I'm Eric and I'm a Modelholic too. I think I have PE poisioning.

"Friendly fire...isn't"

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nmayhew

Member since
July 2003
From: Kent, England

Posted by nmayhew on Wednesday, September 17, 2003 2:48 PM

erush thanks!
i've just been on ebay, seen the sdkfz 11 (afv) and was going to ask regarding its suitability!!! you must be psychic or something Big Smile [:D]

Big Smile [:D]

...
off now to give my ebay account its weekly workout Cool [8D]

Cool [8D]

nick

Kind regards, Nicholas

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nmayhew

Member since
July 2003
From: Kent, England

Posted by nmayhew on Wednesday, September 17, 2003 2:59 PM

i'm now bidding for it Smile [:)]

Smile [:)]

...hope the girlfiend doesn't see Black Eye [B)]

Black Eye [B)]

...
but i forgot to ask, is the kit any good? i've never bought an AFV kit before Blush [:I]

Blush [:I]

...
nick

Kind regards, Nicholas

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Build22

Member since
May 2003
From: Upstate NY

Posted by Build22 on Wednesday, September 17, 2003 3:20 PM

Hey mayhem,

It might be too late but, I happened across this and remembered your post. It's a SdKfz -7 but it is 8-ton

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3146232869&category=2588

And yes AFV does make good kits

Good Luck

And just found this one because I was looking

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3145833385&category=2588

Jim [IMG]

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, September 17, 2003 4:23 PM

I belive both SdKfz -7 and 8 were use to tow 88's. Im sure i had a half-track and 88 in 1/35 20yrs ago!

http://www.lerenfort.fsnet.co.uk/page42.html
http://cybermodeler.com/armor/sdkfz8/sdkfz8.shtml

Found one! at http://www.tristarmodel.com/shop/index.html
DES 1/35 Sd.Kfz.8 12(t) Half-Track
Item #2000_DES_35076

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Spamicus

Member since
April 2003
From: Central Wisconsin

Posted by Spamicus on Wednesday, September 17, 2003 5:42 PM

I think ESCI had a pretty fair 1/35 sdkfz 7 a while back, I don't know what sort of availability it has now. Maybe Ebay or a swap meet.

Steve

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styrene

Member since
May 2003
From: The flat lands of the Southeast

Posted by styrene on Wednesday, September 17, 2003 8:30 PM

Nick,
In answer to a part of your question: The AFV Club halftrack is excellent, with good fit and really nice detail. The reviewer that built up this kit in one of the recent issues of FSM said the tracks were too long. I'll have to reserve judgement on that until I've completed mine. I personally don't think you can go wrong with the AFV kit.
Gip Winecoff

1882: "God is dead"--F. Nietzsche

1900: "Nietzsche is dead"--God

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, September 17, 2003 11:12 PM

The SdKfz 11 was too little. It was designed for the leFH18 10.5cm Howitzer, the sIG 33 or Pak 40 7.5cm gun. The Flak 18/36/37 would have been too large a load. Anything in a pinch might be possible but just as the FAMO was too much tractor, the SdKFz 11 was too little (remember, the 11 shared the same chassis as the Sdkfz 251 half track)

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nmayhew

Member since
July 2003
From: Kent, England

Posted by nmayhew on Thursday, September 18, 2003 2:49 AM

hey gus,
thanks for all the input! Smile [:)]

Smile [:)]

now bidding on 3 different half track!!! Wink [;)]

Wink [;)]

..if the girlfiend looks on the "items i'm bidding for" bit of ebay, i'm toast!! Black Eye [B)]

Black Eye [B)]

Black Eye [B)]

Black Eye [B)]

regards,
nick

Kind regards, Nicholas

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nmayhew

Member since
July 2003
From: Kent, England

Posted by nmayhew on Thursday, September 18, 2003 10:08 AM

ok guys, here's the situation: Smile [:)]

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i can get the tamiya sdkfz 7 but with no decals...are these decals easy to get and/or do say, archers do some relevant decals i could use?
many thanks yet again,
nick Smile [:)]

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Smile [:)]

Smile [:)]

Kind regards, Nicholas

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erush

Member since
May 2003
From: USA, GA

Posted by erush on Thursday, September 18, 2003 11:57 AM

You shouldn't have any trouble getting decals for the 7. Archer does make quite a few generic sets and that's all you need for the h/t.

Eric

Hi, I'm Eric and I'm a Modelholic too. I think I have PE poisioning.

"Friendly fire...isn't"

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nmayhew

Member since
July 2003
From: Kent, England

Posted by nmayhew on Thursday, September 18, 2003 1:52 PM

thanks erush Smile [:)]

Smile [:)]

off to ebay now to see if i just bought half a mechanised infantry division!!! Tongue [:P]

Tongue [:P]

Tongue [:P]

Tongue [:P]

Kind regards, Nicholas

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