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New To Modeling Need Help
Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 29, 2003 7:34 PM
I am nwe to modeling i have only made 1 model and it was a sherman M4A1. but my question is what is a wash i see it refered alot in the forums but i dont know what it means so could someone explain the process and what it is used for
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 29, 2003 7:56 PM
A "Wash" is a highly thinned enamel or oil paint that you apply after the model is almost complete, to bring out hidden lines and surfaces. It is mostly done with Burnt Umber, Black or a darker shade of the model's base color.

After you have completed your model, you spray a gloss coat (people even use Future floor wax) over the entire piece. It aids in letting the wash "flow" easier over the kit and also protects the paint underneath. After letting the wash dry several hours, it is removed with thinner or mineral spirits, leaving the wash in the panel lines, around bolts and such. You can use a cotton swab, dipped in the thinner, to remove unwanted wash from the surface. You then give the piece a dull coat, to remove the shine.

Remember, when doing a wash, you do not paint it on, you let it flow off the brush and sink down into the recessed lines.

An example of how I do a "Wash" is found here: http://www.erock68.com/erock68t15.html
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Posted by shermanfreak on Monday, September 29, 2003 8:09 PM
Erock's got you covered on the wash question Nick.

All that leaves me then is to welcome you to FSM.
Enjoy the forums.
Happy Modelling and God Bless Robert
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  • From: Philippines
Posted by Dwight Ta-ala on Monday, September 29, 2003 8:42 PM
Hi Nick. Nice to have you here with us. Well, Erock has I think answered you're question already. Just want to add one thing. You can also use acrylic paint wash by diluting it with isoprophyl alcohol / tap water and apply as instructed by Erock.

Good luck with the wash.

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  • From: Utah - USA
Posted by wipw on Monday, September 29, 2003 8:50 PM
Welcome to the forum, Nick. Great modeling to you.

Bill
Bill ========================================================== DML M4A2 Red Army ========================================================== ========================================================== -- There is a fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness". (Author unknown)
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 29, 2003 10:05 PM
Now you've got my curiosity going! Do you take the Future polish off before the Dull Coat? I don't "do floors". I've always used Gloss Coat prior to decaling and weathering. The Future would obviously be cheaper.
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  • From: Upstate NY
Posted by Build22 on Monday, September 29, 2003 10:32 PM
Yeah, what they said.

Here's a link for pictures to go with those words:

http://www.missing-lynx.com/articles/german/kkmarder/kkmarder.htm


Welcome & Good luck


Jim [IMG]
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  • From: Dahlonega, Georgia
Posted by lizardqing on Monday, September 29, 2003 11:09 PM
Nick,just try what Erock said and it'll work well. I just asked the same thing on the Sherman I just built and had never done a wash either and did it as he said and it came out well. Welcome to the forum and you will be amazed at what you can learn from these guys.
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Posted by shermanfreak on Tuesday, September 30, 2003 12:02 AM
Pathfinder - Future is probably easier to use and gives better results than most gloss cotes. And no we don't remove it before a dull-cote finish, just spray right over top. One bottle of future goes a long, long way at very little cost. Sprays great with the airbrush and can be used as a dull-cote too with Tamiya's additive.
Happy Modelling and God Bless Robert
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, September 30, 2003 7:01 AM
Sherms' got the answer for you.

As a side note here, you don't need to apply the gloss coat (either spray gloss or future) like you would on a car model. Just 1 decent coat will do the trick. It's just there for the slickness and protection, not for the shine.

You will notice that, if you happen to miss a section with the gloss, it will be very tough to remove the wash. An example of this would be the bottom of the tank. If you do the wash and it runs underneath the tank without a gloss coat, you will have streaks that are really hard to remove. I usually do the whole topside and underside. It's just a thing I have where it has to be perfect, even if I can't see it Blush [:I]
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